Posted on 11/23/2018 8:58:41 AM PST by Red6
The debate over marijuana legalization is just one of the many ways the political landscape is changing as the US comes to terms with drug and criminal justice policies that many experts and Americans consider to have failed at a great cost to the nation’s liberty and finances.
The war on marijuana in particular has cost the US billions of dollars over decades, led to a black market for pot that criminal organizations use to fund violent operations, and contributed to the explosive growth of America’s incarcerated population, which is now the largest in the world. And despite those costs, millions of people still use marijuana — a drug that most Americans view as relatively safe.
(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...
Legalize it and tax it, like every other “sin”.
Age restrictions like all the rest.
(pick one age for all “Adult” things)
Grow, possession and personal use? No Tax.
Commercial sales? Tax.
While their at it, Goober-mint can also get rid of the Distillation prohibition. (Free The Shine!)
What people put into their own bodies is their own business.
BUT . . . If I don’t want to hire you because you smoke/drink/drugs etc, I don’t have to.
Maximum Liberty = Maximum Responsibility.
Most of the people against legalized marijuana are the people that never have smoked it, don’t smoke it and never will smoke it.
If Republicans were smart, they would campaign as being liberal, announcemyheor opposition to whoever would be named Speaker who might happen to be liberal. Get elected, make some noise about a Speakership fight and THEN
March lockstep with the conservative agenda!!
LOCK
STEP
Why not, it’s what all these democrat military vet, and other so called moderate candidates did to get elected. Now, as always with democrats, they are marching lockstep.
You are also right about human nature. What have you done for me “today” is the mentality but that is true for most people, not just libtards. Timing matters in such situations.
You make the biggest political gains not with those you already have and will support you anyhow, rather those that you don't have. You win a war when on the offense, not in a defense.
When you do something that is consistent, logical, ethical, may have a net economic benefit and NEVER EVER had the stated intent to counter drugs or crime in the first place, you win, even if you only make marginal gains among folks that traditionally are not your voters.
No, it’s the thought of idiots openly calling for political opponents to be put into camps that reminds me of a certain German political party back in the 1930s.
You did that. Not me.
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Exactly. Whatever balloon this article posited popped after the the first four words.
Cars kill more every year than those three combined, let's make driving illegal while we're at it.
most people that are against murder are people that have never murdered anyone, and never will murder anyone.
most people that are against abortion are people that have never aborted anyone, and never will abort anyone.
most people that are against jaywalking are people that have never jaywalked, and never will jaywalk.
most people that are against sex with animals are people that have never had sex with animals, and never will have sex with animals.
pretty stupid thing to say.
Trump’s plan for 2020! This will take 10 - 20% of the libs off the top for the DNC.
Two comments -
“After failing to prove it is addictive...”
For a counter viewpoint stating that your conclusion has not been established....
“https://americanaddictioncenters.org/marijuana-rehab/is-it-addictive";
But even if it were so established as irrefutable, if the GOP suddenly threw in the towel and supported legalization of pot, are the demographics of the pot crowd such that they will start voting in significant numbers for GOP candidates and defeat democraps? Or will there be no such shift and the next steps have been taken toward becoming a country version of Amsterdam?
Your bottom line that “pot is not dangerous” is contradicted by your subsequent statement that “pot poses a lesser danger to public”. So then it is dangerous! Then the classic pro-pot advocate’s comparison to tobacco and alcohol is that is less dangerous. But you won’t really know that is true until the there is a huge growth in the numbers of people who smoke pot, approach the millions of people with alcohol and tobacco problems....and after decades of use. Can the ountry afford such an experiment when the bottom line is that recreational drug use is to get high, there is no social redeeming benefit.
This seems a leftist issue in general with small numbers of pot smoking libertarians / conservatives ...no real upside to the GOP. If the GOP were smart, they would see how states overcame a federal law using their states to shield them, then use the same arguments to start getting out of all sorts of leftist federal laws imposed on states.
You did that. Not me.
If Republicans want to throw out a curve ball and target voters in segments that traditionally have become democrat, this is one way to do it.
If Trump decriminalized weed at the federal level he would get no “credit” for it. In fact, Democrats use legalization ballot initiatives to GOTV. They aren’t expecting those weed voters to vote GOP, are they?
You don’t know jack about me, Skippy.
Now don’t you have some cattle cars to go clean out?
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The pot business in America today is hardly a massive violent biz
Nobody wants Mexican green bud for years now even though it’s cheap
Folks want the best
And cartridges and shatter and edibles
And this new extract.....Live Resin
The Arellano Felix and Beltran Leyva and Falcon and Gallardo old days of weed before Cocaine are long gone
You can’t sell cheap Mexican weed now
And cartel guerilla grows are on the ebb again for same reason ...low quality
Go to a huge 2500 light warehouse in Los Angeles or a 50 acre greenhouse in Carpenteria ...easier to manage and higher THCA
it’s business and it ain’t leaving
It’ll mid legal to some degree everywhere by 2022 ...no question
I’m a conservative not a Republican ...
It’s just how we vote since we have no choice
outside the Republican party, conservatives are electorally impotent
They like to pretend otherwise but that does not effect the reality
“Make it a state issue and see how the states deal with it separately.”
It is, and the states are dealing with it separately. Marijuana should not be controlled by the federal government. It should not be a Schedule I drug. That it is, and that so many people know how ridiculous that classification is, serves only to undermine the credibility of the people who want to control our lives.
I’m one who has and still is considering getting medical certification (which I can do in Michigan) for a number of ills, the main ones being chronic nausea and lack of appetite. Not sure I believe it can be helpful for chronic pain, but I’d rather not be taking up to 2400 mg of ibuprofen per day for back and neck pain.
As of December 6, recreational cannabis will be legal here. It will likely be another year before the state gets its infrastructure in place that allows for retail sales of recreational use. Apparently as of 12/6/18, I can legally grow my own. However, I have no idea how one could legally acquire seeds.
I learned all I need to no in those few sentences.
and, by the way; I hire drooling morons who scrambled their brains smoking pot in high school to clean out my cattle cars. they also serve my fries.
any more pithy rejoinders for me?
It’s not addictive .....you’re wrong there ....it’s habit forming I’ll give you that
It’s not totally safe admittedly but it’s in my vast experience safest of all intoxicants I’m familiar with
Why are we arguing
This is a fair accompli
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