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UK - MI6 spooks battling Donald Trump over release of classified Russia probe documents
Yahoo News ^ | November 21, 2018 | Ben Riley-Smith

Posted on 11/22/2018 10:31:05 AM PST by dennisw

MI6 chiefs are secretly battling Donald Trump to stop him publishing classified information linked to the Russian election meddling investigation.

The UK is warning that the US president would undermine intelligence gathering if he releases pages of an FBI application to wiretap one of his former campaign advisers.

However Trump allies are fighting back, demanding transparency and asking why Britain would oppose the move unless it had something to hide.

It forces the spotlight on whether the UK played a role in the FBI's investigation launched before the 2016 presidential election into Trump campaign ties to the Kremlin.

The Telegraph has talked to more than a dozen UK and US officials, including in American intelligence, who have revealed details about the row.

British spy chiefs have “genuine concern” about sources being exposed if classified parts of the wiretap request were made public, according to figures familiar with discussions.

“It boils down to the exposure of people”, said one US intelligence official, adding: “We don’t want to reveal sources and methods.” US intelligence shares the concerns of the UK.

Another said Britain feared setting a dangerous “precedent” which could make people less likely to share information, knowing that it could one day become public.

The current row is deemed so politically sensitive that staff at the British embassy in Washington DC have been barred from discussing it with journalists.

Theresa May, who already has a testing relationship with Mr Trump, has also been kept at arms-length and is understood to have not raised the issue directly with the US president. Trump's two-year headache

The row is about an FBI request to wiretap Carter Page, a former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, which was made in October 2016 - the month before the US election.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; carterpage; eavesdropping; europeanunion; fisagate; germany; mi6; nato; russia; spygate; theresamay; tories; trumprussia; unitedkingdom; wiretap; wiretapping
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To: rlmorel

It explains why everything happened overseas. Its illegal for the CIA to conduct a domestic operation.


41 posted on 11/22/2018 12:25:53 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: gaijin

“Maybe Britain is now an ENEMY.”

Sad to consider, but lefty socialists all over the world are certainly not friends of our America. And the UK/EU is full of lefty socialists. And now a lot of muzzies.

Would they come to our aid if we needed it?


42 posted on 11/22/2018 12:27:16 PM PST by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: dennisw

If UK meddled with the election, they should be exposed.


43 posted on 11/22/2018 12:32:09 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is fixing the world's problems just to distract us from Russia.)
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To: gaijin

Maybe Britain is the enemy, maybe it always has been. Certainly my very wise and very perceptive grandmother who died in the 1970s, felt Britain was still an enemy — and only seeming a friend — a treacherous friend. And my other grandmother, far from a fool herself, who admired her brilliance very much, agreed with her.


44 posted on 11/22/2018 12:39:39 PM PST by erkelly
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To: dennisw

As if nobody knows that the sources and methodes are...

Lies, Treason, Blackmail, and Murder. (Rinse and Repeat)


45 posted on 11/22/2018 12:41:39 PM PST by EasySt
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To: dennisw

The source’s broke laws and the mb method is Hillary’s corruption.


46 posted on 11/22/2018 12:48:08 PM PST by Jumper
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To: dennisw

UK spooks just covering their a$$es for being complicit in the undermining and subversion of an elected US President.

Screw them TO THE MAX


47 posted on 11/22/2018 12:54:59 PM PST by A strike (Import Third World become Third World)
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To: dennisw

The U.K. has been trying to get control over our elections and government with its efforts to stop our President from being elected and to depose him since he was elected. Sanctions against the U.K. are needed.


48 posted on 11/22/2018 1:00:13 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: cymbeline

Britain’s ruling clique (origin with East India Company?) is like an octopus. One of those tentacles became the U.S. deep state exercising covert control of the country.


49 posted on 11/22/2018 1:00:20 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The US “intelligence community” asked MI6 to spy on Trump for them and MI6 obliged,

I hesitate to believe that part.

In my opinion, The DEMS in 'intelligence' were spying on Trump, but had nothing. They needed something to base their 'investigating' on to make it legal.

They got the MI6 via Steele to provide some highly edited dossiers which MI6 had compiled on other US politicians.

The British don't want TRUMP to release this stuff because it will reveal that It came from MI6 and was not originally about Trump. The people it was about don't want us to know, either.

50 posted on 11/22/2018 1:11:09 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Either way, it’s a cover-up.


51 posted on 11/22/2018 1:15:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: gaijin

Antigun madness gets to their heads. Just look how they treat Israel and try to prove the contrary inviting terrorists within their own nations like they care more


52 posted on 11/22/2018 1:15:19 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Brilliant; dennisw; E. Pluribus Unum; dp0622
If you haven't read it, there is an excellent article on this by Jeff Carlson at TheMarketsWork.com - John Brennan’s Role in the FBI’s Trump-Russia Investigation

From that article:


On a February 4, 2018 appearance on Meet the Press with Chuck Todd, Brennan got more specific:

Todd: You ran the inter-agency task force out of the CIA beginning in summer ’16 – included the FBI as concerns were rising about this Russian interference. What can you say about what you believed the evidence that the FBI had to get that FISA warrant and how much of the Steele dossier was a part of it?

Brennan: We, the CIA and the intelligence community had collected a fair amount of information in the summer of 2016 about what the Russians were doing on multiple fronts. And we wanted to make sure that the FBI had full access to that.

Todd: Did the Papadopoulos thing come through the CIA via the Five Eyes thing? That would have been a piece of information that gets to the FBI? Is that how that works?

Brennan: I’m not going to get into details about how it was acquired. But the FBI has very close relationship with its British counterparts. And so the FBI had visibility into a number of things that were going on involving some individuals who may have had some affiliation with the Trump campaign. Brennan appears to be confirming information came from British Intelligence Officials.

I think Clapper is involved too. Deeply.

53 posted on 11/22/2018 1:18:12 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: dennisw
So reading between the lines:

UK agents cooperated with U.S. agents and law enforcement, breaking laws of both countries, to frame Trump for collusion that never happened, to cover for Hillary losing the and to further cover up her own willful mishandling of classified information(which more countries than Russia have in their possession).

They're terribly sorry about this and would be really embarrassed if their involvement was fully disclosed to the public, and promise it won't happen again.

Did I leave anything out?

54 posted on 11/22/2018 1:43:01 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: dennisw

Maybe Briton was colluding with the ClintonsBimbo and Democratic party against our nation?


55 posted on 11/22/2018 1:46:30 PM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: Retvet

this article is behind a paywall, but needs to be read by all Americans. Papadopolous makes it clear Alexander Downer was not repping for Australia, but for David Cameron/England.

Western ‘plot’ to stop Trump, says ex-aide Papadopoulos
The Australian - 3 days ago

TWEET: George Papadopolous
In January 2017 it was unbeknownst to every American, especially me that:
1) Joseph Mifsud is no Russian agent. He was western intelligence sent to entrap and make up lies.
2) “Putin’s niece” is a fake
3) Alexander Downer was not repping Australia
America deserves the truth
https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1065280332704804865


56 posted on 11/22/2018 2:32:29 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

one small excerpt...

Western ‘plot’ to stop Trump, says ex-aide Papadopoulos
The Australian - 3 days ago
Donald Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos believes Australia was drawn into a broader Western intelligence conspiracy to dis


57 posted on 11/22/2018 2:34:18 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: dennisw

Rumor has it Israel doesn’t want it declassified either.

Weird.


58 posted on 11/22/2018 2:38:52 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Democrats: Party over Country.)
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To: MAGAthon

someone needs to access the whole article and excerpt it on FR:

Facebook: The Australian:
19 Nov EXCLUSIVE: A Trump campaign aide believes Australia was drawn into a broader Western conspiracy to discredit the Trump campaign.

from replies: Brian Woods: he is right, ABC TV is breaching international diplomatic relations by constantly attacking trump with unfounded brainwash hearsay in almost every segment when ABC has nothing to do with USA politics. Trump wont be happy our govt funds this diplomatic disrespect.
https://www.facebook.com/theaustralian/posts/10151189215109978

if you think US MSM has TDS, you should check out billion dollar per year, taxpayer-funded ABC!

ABC Trump’s America
https://www.abc.net.au/news/donald-trumps-america/

ABC doesn’t speak for the majority of Australians, who just had a win with the new Prime Minister. public pressure resulted in:

21 Nov: news.com.au: (Australian Prime Minister Scott) Morrison pulls UN migration pact support
Australia won’t be signing a UN-sponsored document on safe and orderly migration because Scott Morrison says it would compromise the country’s borders.
Daniel McCulloch
Scott Morrison is following in Donald Trump’s footsteps by refusing to sign a non-binding migration agreement which Australia helped draft...

But the prime minister says the UN pact would compromise Australia’s border security and immigration settings.
“It doesn’t distinguish between those who illegally enter Australia and those who come the right way,” he told 2GB radio on Wednesday.
“I would never allow something to compromise our borders, I worked too hard to ensure that we weren’t in that position.”

(Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton) said Australia had stopped boat arrivals and drownings at sea through hardline border protection policies.
“We’re not going to surrender that, we want our sovereignty to remain intact,” he said.
https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/morrison-shuns-un-covenant-on-migration/news-story/9d44ce64244455f85c5ad0416d29aaec


59 posted on 11/22/2018 2:47:02 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

TWEET: George Papadopoulos 1 hour ago
I actually think the story of the Obama CIA, British intelligence and Australian intelligence plotting to sabotage Trump and his team with orchestrated “Russia” meetings or people is fascinating. At least the media has evidence that can back up these stories. Russia? Not so much.

2HR AGO: It’s not really a secret who the British “sources” were that were illicitly spying on Trump and me and others. They are fighting to keep this private. I will lay them out here:

1) Tobias Ellwood
2) Stefan Halper
3) Alexander Downer
4) British Embassy in DC
5) GCHQ
6) Erika T
https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19


60 posted on 11/22/2018 3:30:17 PM PST by MAGAthon
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