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We Were Made for Civil War
The American Conservative ^ | October 29, 2018 | MICHAEL VLAHOS

Posted on 11/16/2018 2:44:55 PM PST by Jack Black

Civil division and its conquests are the true makers of America, and continue to shape its national progress—or threaten its undoing. Indeed, the very founding of the United States advanced the principle of civil conflict over all others. Our very identity, from the start, was framed as triumph over the “other.” We cast them out, like France cruelly expelled their heretic Huguenots in the 17th century. For our part, we drove out 100,000 loyalists we once counted as blood brothers. This civil war itself lasted 20 years, from 1763 to 1783, but the ensuing cold war and residual battles with Britain did not end until 1815.

By then there was another fissure in the nation. After 1815 a new cultural migration began. Young America itself split into two opposed ways of life and two increasingly bitter political identities, which fought another 20-year conflict, from 1857 to 1877. Threats of secession and nullification dominated American politics all the way to 1896 with Plessy v. Ferguson. Only the “lucky” generations, from the 1930s to the 1970s, could pretend to celebrate something like national unity. Even then, such privilege was the demesne of a single, favored political majority—completely coterminous with the prevailing liberal establishment.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cwii; cwiiping
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To: DuncanWaring
DuncanWaring: "united” not capitalized."

Sure, but "the United States" was first used long before the Civil War and "these United States" did not fade from usage until after Congress made "the United States" official in the early 1900s.
The Civil War had little or nothing to do with it.

121 posted on 11/19/2018 2:16:38 PM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: LeoWindhorse
"My great Uncle rode with Forrest as a member of the 5th Miss Cav . Maybe mine and yours crossed paths . "

Only if, like Forrest at Tupelo, he was attacking the Union supply train.
My great grandfather's regiment was not considered reliable enough for the front lines and so was assigned to protect the rear.

In one of the war's last battles they were finally moved to the front at Fort Blakely, Mobile Bay, and my great grandfather was seriously wounded in the attack, almost died of infection in a New Orleans hospital.
Thankfully he was as ornery and tough as any in those days!

122 posted on 11/19/2018 2:31:52 PM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: central_va
Central_va: "Except when Lincoln arrested the Maryland State legislature and countless journalists.
That was kind of a control thing."

I think statistically there were as many Southerners arrested by Confederates for such things as there were Northerners arrested by Lincoln's government.

123 posted on 11/19/2018 2:35:33 PM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7dZk5g9Hl4


124 posted on 11/19/2018 2:39:33 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: dljordan

“No Step On Snek!”

That would be awesome on a t-shirt.


125 posted on 11/19/2018 2:55:39 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Trump is just postponing it for 8 years. After he’s gone it’s a sure bet.”

I sadly agree. This is but a breather to allow people to get ready, whatever that means to folks.


126 posted on 11/19/2018 2:57:30 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: MileHi
so don't be all butt hurt about that.

OK. I'm over it.

127 posted on 11/19/2018 5:06:11 PM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand than you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: LeoWindhorse

My Dad’s WWII division began its training in 1942 at Camp Forrest Tennessee.
He was so smitten with a young girl he first met in Tennessee that after the war he married her.
They raised a big family, most of whom live in the South.
Today Mom & Dad are buried side by side in Pennsylvania, just a few miles from my home.

Forrest was a complicated figure, but I admire him.


128 posted on 11/19/2018 5:32:42 PM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: PLMerite

“That would be awesome on a t-shirt.”

I’ve got one.


129 posted on 11/19/2018 6:15:19 PM PST by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Jack Black

Well that took a while.

BTW, I largely agree with the premise of the article.

FReegards


130 posted on 11/19/2018 7:56:11 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: dljordan

Found it on Amazon, just ordered one!


131 posted on 11/19/2018 10:27:08 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: central_va
central_va: "That is absolutely not true and a lie. Confederate soldiers has to pay for supplies..."

You're talking about Lee's Gettysburg campaign only, there were many others with no such orders.
But even at Gettysburg Confederates kidnapped any freed blacks they could for sale in Confederate slave markets.
They also destroyed:

All that was before Confederates returned in 1864 to burn the entire town.

Plus, I'll repeat, Stuart paid nothing for the wagon train loads of stuff he scarfed up in 1863 when he should have served as Lee's eyes & ears.

132 posted on 11/20/2018 12:28:57 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: PLMerite

You can also get the velcro patches too. I had guys at the range taking pictures of my patch at the last shoot.


133 posted on 11/20/2018 5:20:57 AM PST by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: BroJoeK

“I still have a soft-spot for Forrest, he let my great grandfather live when others would not have. “

Two of my greats rode with Forrest in the 10th Tennessee. The 10th started out as Napier’s Regiment.


134 posted on 11/20/2018 5:23:47 AM PST by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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