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To: mewzilla; NImerc
Once again, due process was ruled to be in violation because the WH unilaterally revoked CNN's "asset" ie press pass.

What many people seem to be having a hard time understanding are that privileges, rights, ownership, etc can accrue through usage and (implied) acceptance of said claim(s). (The legal term is adverse possession.) In other words, a right becomes 'property' that can be transferred, sold, assigned, etc.

To summarize, it has *value*. Now, does anyone ever notice the long legal contract on the back of a parking or theater stub? What it specifically says is that the user only has a right to the specific conditions of usage ie performance/parking time, and that no other common law rights are created.

This ruling is in no way a victory for CNN; rather it's a major loss for the MSM. Because know Trump can revoke *everyone's* pass, establish a firm set of guidelines, rules and procedures governing codes of conduct, and then re-issue passes under those stipulated terms and conditions. Furthermore, there is nothing stopping Trump from setting up an application process where any citizen can petition for a pass.

If that comes to fruition, and if seating is limited to 50 people or so, guess what happens when there are 10,000 requests? Lottery time. CNN/Acosta totally and completely screwed a cozy insider game for everyone in the MSM. The 5A ruling is a disaster for them.

196 posted on 11/16/2018 12:37:47 PM PST by semantic
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To: semantic

Finally someone who thought about it as opposed to just explode on the spot


198 posted on 11/16/2018 12:42:59 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: semantic

I hope that you are correct.


199 posted on 11/16/2018 12:43:10 PM PST by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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To: semantic

Nonsense

You cannot sell your White House press access. Another attempt to twist the law to say something it does not


201 posted on 11/16/2018 12:47:03 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: semantic
Your case law crap surmises that judges who will deem a President revoking stipulated terms and conditions of preexisting discriminatory guidelines as being not Constitutional do not exist.

These judges do exist based upon the disingenuousness of perverted case law and “a living Constitution”, thus your unprincipled legalism is faulty in the face of actual enumerations (It is what it says it is and that is the bottom line until you enumerate to what you desire). Without enumeration and texualism, our laws can be interpreted at will, gee, just like the perverted track known as case law (The antithesis of Natural Law of absolutes BTW).

204 posted on 11/16/2018 12:54:14 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: semantic

To summarize, it has *value*. Now, does anyone ever notice the long legal contract on the back of a parking or theater stub? What it specifically says is that the user only has a right to the specific conditions of usage ie performance/parking time, and that no other common law rights are created.

This ruling is in no way a victory for CNN; rather it’s a major loss for the MSM. Because know Trump can revoke *everyone’s* pass, establish a firm set of guidelines, rules and procedures governing codes of conduct, and then re-issue passes under those stipulated terms and conditions. Furthermore, there is nothing stopping Trump from setting up an application process where any citizen can petition for a pass.


YES. Well put.


205 posted on 11/16/2018 12:54:31 PM PST by NImerc
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To: semantic
You've been challenged rather strongly on the 1st part of your post, and I don't consider my self an expert in that area, so I'll just follow the discussion.

However, I DO agree with this:

This ruling is in no way a victory for CNN; rather it's a major loss for the MSM. Because know Trump can revoke *everyone's* pass, establish a firm set of guidelines, rules and procedures governing codes of conduct, and then re-issue passes under those stipulated terms and conditions. Furthermore, there is nothing stopping Trump from setting up an application process where any citizen can petition for a pass.

If that comes to fruition, and if seating is limited to 50 people or so, guess what happens when there are 10,000 requests? Lottery time. CNN/Acosta totally and completely screwed a cozy insider game for everyone in the MSM. The 5A ruling is a disaster for them.

This would be terrific if security could be absolute, and if some sort of reasonable process to screen out looney tune questions, without appearing to be "biased", could be devised. Assuming 50 seats, maybe 100 potential questioners would be chosen by lottery, and then that group itself would vote on the 50 best questions, with the top 50 getting in. The top 10 vote getters get to be in the front row. (This probably needs to be a little more sophisticated than each participant getting one vote, to preclude 20 participants getting all the votes.) Some method of preventing all the questions being on the same topic would be useful, too. Maybe limit any one subject to 10 questions out of the 100?

Other details and potential problems would have to be addressed too: How to keep any organization from overwhelming the application process; How to source questioners from around the country (maybe 1/2 the questions can be by internet-based video, but then that might makes the question "selection" process too cumbersome), and so on.

I am not exactly suggesting a "virtual townhall" to replace press conferences, but, perhaps incorporating some elements of the former might be useful.

This whole idea would require a lot more thought, and "design" than my hasty post here: The main idea is to get more direct interaction going between the President and the people, and largely bypass the MSM.

248 posted on 11/17/2018 9:24:33 PM PST by Paul R.
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