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Lutheran Pastor Defends 'Ethically Sourced Porn,' Wants to Remove 'Shame' From Industry
The Christian ^ | 11/07/18 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 11/12/2018 2:18:29 PM PST by Enlightened1

Lutheran pastor and author Nadia Bolz-Weber has argued that there should be no shame in consuming pornography, especially if it is "ethically sourced."

In a recent interview with the New Jersey-based LGBT publication Out In Jersey, Bolz-Weber discussed her upcoming new book on the issue of sexual ethics and the church.

In discussing pornography, Bolz-Weber explained that while she recognizes that there are "issues of justice and exploitation within the porn industry," she still does not believe that the "consumption of pornography should be shamed."

"There is ethically sourced porn. There are people who say it's sexual immorality, but if you take Liberals and Conservatives who show outrage and made a Venn diagram of those who consume pornography, you'd see a huge overlap," said Bolz-Weber to Out in Jersey.

"There are people who consume pornography in a shame based way, it would be horrible if people know because they are those who are morally outraged as Liberals or Conservatives. That's a lonely place to exist, let's take that part out of it. I'm not going to shame people when they already feel ashamed."

Bolz-Weber's comments have drawn criticism from some, including conservative Christian author Rod Dreher, who argued that Bolz-Weber "inadvertently indicates why progressive Christianity has no future."

"If there is a more cartoonish example of progressive Christianity than a foul-mouthed lady pastor praising consumption of 'ethically-sourced porn,' I can't think of it," wrote Dreher.

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To: GregoTX

With those tattoos, I’d say she’s not a Lutheran. She’s a Unitarian.


21 posted on 11/12/2018 2:32:36 PM PST by Publius
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To: depressed in 06

Personally I believe porn production harms everyone who participates. Whether they eagerly signed-up or not.


22 posted on 11/12/2018 2:33:35 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Enlightened1

I’d say nearly everyone in the ELCA voted Hillary. It’s not a church any more. It’s a social justice forum.

I escaped from that asylum five years ago. What a mess.


23 posted on 11/12/2018 2:33:54 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Enlightened1

Are you freakin kidding me?!?!?

Pastor???? No.

Satans foot soldier.


24 posted on 11/12/2018 2:34:42 PM PST by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison...like yesterday!!!)
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To: William Tell

“Dolphin-Free Tuna?”
How about “Cage-Free Eggs”?
How about “Do what feels good Christianity”?


25 posted on 11/12/2018 2:34:44 PM PST by taterjay
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To: Enlightened1

we have ethical hacking, so why not?


26 posted on 11/12/2018 2:36:48 PM PST by JZelle
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To: GregoTX

She is a typical example of the millennial and “gen-x” emergent church. The wickedness of this generation knows no depths.


27 posted on 11/12/2018 2:36:59 PM PST by fwdude (Forget the Catechism, the RCC's real doctrine is what they allow with impunity.)
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To: GregoTX
Interesting times we are living in.

There’s no return to anything normal after this stuff !

28 posted on 11/12/2018 2:37:55 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where is your bothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Enlightened1

Nadia Bolz-Weber, age 49, has left her ELCA “church”, known as “House for All Sinners and Saints”!

https://www.makers.com/blog/pastor-nadia-bolz-weber-exits-church-with-epic-dance-party

http://houseforall.org

Since she is divorced and without a regular “job”, I imagine that her royalties and speaking fees keep her solvent—or more than solvent!!!!

My Orthodox Priest informed us yesterday that our Temple is a house for sinners!! Period!!!! I know that he is right!

But if any of us sinners chose to indulge in porno (”ethically sourced” or not), we would have to include that in Confession, and repent of it! REALLY!!!!


29 posted on 11/12/2018 2:38:10 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Enlightened1

Ethical source porn???

I’m really puzzled.

If we are saying, as this is a member of clergy here, if we are saying pornographic displays following God’s blessings of human sexuality, are we saying that we would film married couples??

But then, what is the reedeming social value to the viewer here?


30 posted on 11/12/2018 2:42:02 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Enlightened1

It seems like a lot of sects (Catholic, Lutheran and Methodists to name a few) are now becoming politicized and embracing diversity. What does Revelation say about a falling away during the end times?


31 posted on 11/12/2018 2:42:32 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: GregoTX
1) I think "ethically sourced porn" probably just means that the performers were not coerced. Because in many cases they are coerced.

2) After seeing that pic, I am not 100% convinced that is a biological female.

32 posted on 11/12/2018 2:42:46 PM PST by Salman (Democrats. The other "religion of peace".)
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To: Enlightened1

Stay in your lane, Pastor.


33 posted on 11/12/2018 2:43:00 PM PST by lee martell (AT)
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To: Honorary Serb
My Orthodox Priest informed us yesterday that our Temple is a house for sinners!! Period!!!! I know that he is right!

There is a world of difference between sinners knowing that they need a physician and come for healing and sinners who seek to deliberately infect the flock of God.

Our shameful lack of God-endued discernment has removed this difference from before our eyes.

34 posted on 11/12/2018 2:43:08 PM PST by fwdude (Forget the Catechism, the RCC's real doctrine is what they allow with impunity.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Is “Ethically Sourced Porn” like “Dolphin-Free Tuna?”
________________

Or free-range chicks.


35 posted on 11/12/2018 2:45:44 PM PST by LydiaLong
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To: Enlightened1

Most mainline American denominations are controlled by Satan. Christians should stay away.


36 posted on 11/12/2018 2:46:07 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Enlightened1

SHE cannot be a PASTOR.

Sure, she can put on a costume (”vestments”) and speak in the character of a pastor, but that doesn’t make her one any more than it makes me Hamlet, Prince of Denmark. Or, more appropriately to this story, Ophelia.


37 posted on 11/12/2018 2:46:51 PM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: GregoTX

What gender does he/she/sher identify with?


38 posted on 11/12/2018 2:47:17 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing
Most mainline American denominations are controlled by Satan. Christians should stay away.

Shockingly, many Evangelical denominations are as well, increasingly. The promised Strong Delusion is upon us, bare for all to see.

39 posted on 11/12/2018 2:50:12 PM PST by fwdude (Forget the Catechism, the RCC's real doctrine is what they allow with impunity.)
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To: Enlightened1
I think this is pretty enlightening by Ravi Zacharias.

Ravi Zacharias tells the story of a trial in which a lawyer was defending a pornographer of the basest sorts. The lawyer asked the plaintiff, “Have you ever gone into an art gallery?” The plaintiff responded, “Yes.” The lawyer continued, “Have you paid to go into that art gallery?” Again the plaintiff responded, “Yes.” “Were there paintings of naked people in that art gallery?”, the lawyer asked. “Yes,” the plaintiff responded. “So why do you call that art, but Playboy pornography?” The plaintiff did not have a response.

Have you ever wondered what the difference is between a piece of art featuring nude figures, and pornography? Is there a difference?

In A Pilgrim’s Regress, C.S. Lewis wrote about a man who ordered milk and eggs from a waiter in a restaurant. After tasting the milk he commented to the waiter that it was delicious. The waiter replied, “Milk is only the secretion of a cow, just like urine and feces.” After eating the eggs he commented on the tastiness of the eggs. Again the waiter responded that eggs are only a by-product of a chicken. After thinking about the waiter’s comment for a moment the man responded, “You lie. You don’t know the difference between what nature has meant for nourishment, and what it meant for garbage.”

Ravi Zacharias notes that while both art and pornography utilize nude figures, the purpose/motives for portraying the naked body are definitively distinct. Pornography utilizes nude figures for the pure purpose of stimulating the baser instincts of individuals; instincts that will not be satisfied by that alone. Art, on the other hand, utilizes nude figures for the purpose of highlighting the beauty of man. While pornography engenders lust, art engenders admiration for the glory and beauty of the human body, and thus the glory of its Maker.

40 posted on 11/12/2018 2:51:06 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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