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To: Kaslin; LS; Lazamataz; wardaddy

Steve Marks is an arse from an outdated past who should be writing satire instead of opining on modern politics.

He’s entirely wrong... and looks bad while saying so.

In contrast, if (which is a big question)... IF ... the GOP wants to make inroads with urban and suburban voters (regardless of gender), then the GOP has to propose solutions to modern urban and suburban problems such as:

traffic
healthcare
affordable housing
rampart public recreational drug usage such as discarded needles in children’s parks
homelessness
clean drinking water (Flint, Michigan, anyone?!)
etc.

...and here’s the deal, the GOP might not even *want* to propose such solutions.

Fine. Whatever.

...but you certainly haven’t heard GOP candidates propose solutions to those modern urban/suburban problems.

So live without their votes.

Either you want their votes or not.

Pound your chest. Act all internet-tough!

But don’t claim that they can’t think to explain why they aren’t voting for you.

They aren’t voting for the GOP because they aren’t hearing solutions from the GOP.

Don’t ask them to change. They aren’t going to make your job easy.

If you want their votes then solve their problems.

Otherwise, admit that you don’t want their votes.


159 posted on 11/11/2018 1:08:41 AM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Southack

Wise, wise words.

I’m a little surprised here on FR how so many people demand the VOTERS change.

If you own a store, and people aren’t buying your product, you can run around ranting about how stupid the voters are, blaming the education system, whining about your competitor cheating . . .

Or, you can find a way to compete and market your product. I believe we have superior products across the board, but we are being vastly out-messaged.


167 posted on 11/11/2018 6:01:04 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Southack; LS; Yaelle; Thank You Rush; Pollster1; wardaddy
The article author would benefit from having some actual facts. If he did, he might not have written such twaddle.

Southack's post was spot-on. It may be easy to blame the women (just like some like to blame the blacks, the gays, Millenials, and a variety of "those other people" for the current state of affairs). However, as the Pew study I referenced shows, except for the Solid Liberal and Core Conservative groups, there are shades of grey along the vast majority of people in this nation. Even more dopey regarding this article, is that most Normal people KNOW this stereotype isn't correct...but hey, writing without research is easy.

Continuing to think that "all we need is for Trump to be Trump" and that "we don't need those 'other people'" is a tribal mindset that guarantees us losing the nation. The lucky thing for those of us who WANT a larger group of MAGA-loving citizens is that there ARE many people on the margins who are sick of being used and lied to. #WalkAway was one manifestation of it. The HARD WORK required to actually WIN THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS is the only obstacle. To paraphrase LS, it wasn't enough for the Betamax to be superior to VHS...you have to get out from behind your keyboard and meet Acutal Other People.

I've said it many, many times, and I get it: maybe some people chafe at the thought of engaging with minorities, gays, Millenials etc. And yes, some men, you can't reach. But I would rather have the likes of Peter Thiel, Candace Owens, Diamonds & Silk, and Ben Carson at my barbecue than Paul Ryan, Willard, Jeb! and George Will.

We have been entrusted with a republic - if we can keep it. We have two years to reverse course. Who's with me?


174 posted on 11/11/2018 7:52:22 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: Southack

That’s a good post actually


179 posted on 11/11/2018 10:52:18 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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