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PG&E power lines may have sparked deadly Camp Fire, according to radio transmissions
Mercury News ^ | Nov 9 2018 | Matthias Gafni

Posted on 11/09/2018 8:13:23 PM PST by rintintin

PARADISE, Calif — Downed PG&E power lines, amid high winds, may have sparked the deadly Camp Fire that has destroyed the town of Paradise and killed at least nine people, according to hours of firefighter radio transmissions reviewed by Bay Area News Group.

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1 posted on 11/09/2018 8:13:23 PM PST by rintintin
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To: rintintin

Not the first time. They’re pretty good at this.


2 posted on 11/09/2018 8:15:19 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: rintintin

Blaming the power company is so the lawyers can grab their money. The result is raised rates, a regressive tax. It hardly matters how the fire was started. What matters most is California’s lack of timbeing, controlled burns, brush clearing, road networks, and wildfire prevention in general. The US Government sucks at it too but they are geniuses compared to California.


3 posted on 11/09/2018 8:22:53 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: rintintin

Shirley you jest ... the power company doesn’t have the expertise to string power lines that can hold up in the environment ... maybe they need to be fired and replaced.


4 posted on 11/09/2018 8:27:24 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Apparently quite the tech task to put high voltage distribution underground, but vegetation clearing has been very technologically available for quite some decades.

Some deforestation is warranted for peeps living in some climates.


5 posted on 11/09/2018 8:27:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: palmer

Exactly, bingo! PG&E has deep pockets, and the slip and fall lawyers will be on this soon. Result: higher rates for everyone, which is par for the course in the rabid leftist state of Californication. The new serial adulterer governor, Gavin Newsface, will see to it. I pity everyone in Californication.


6 posted on 11/09/2018 8:28:55 PM PST by Fungi
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To: palmer

It’s pretty clear over the last decade in Calif. that vegetation needs to be cleared for a vast swath from electrical distribution infrastructure.

Either that or peeps need to go off grid.


7 posted on 11/09/2018 8:30:05 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: RetiredTexasVet
the power company doesn’t have the expertise to string power lines that can hold up in the environment ..

Have you ever been in an auto accident ?

8 posted on 11/09/2018 8:32:43 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

I had the power company out to the ‘hood to review and discuss their distribution infrastructure.

They soon rebuilt the local Distribution [and severely trimmed trees close to the power lines] and we have had an order of magnitude improvement in reliability [or maybe inverse - 10x better in downtime/yr in any event].

Act locally for improvements from the power company and in reducing the threat of having your house go up in flames.


9 posted on 11/09/2018 8:40:53 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: rintintin

Thank God California doesn’t allow clearing of brush or this crise to not let go to waste might not have happened.


10 posted on 11/09/2018 8:42:01 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: rintintin

Not hobo campfires?


11 posted on 11/09/2018 8:45:14 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: rintintin

They could’ve shut the power off when the winds were forecasted to be hurricane strength. Apparently that fire was already burning and they decided against shut off. You can play Monday morning quarterback and blame lawyers but a whole town was destroyed and people died. You can’t clear all the brush and trees enough to stop fires. I live in the Sierras and once a fire starts with high winds nothing will stop it. We’ve had three fires in our area in the last three years started by downed power lines. One fire killed four people and destroyed 200 homes. PG&E has been totally irresponsible in these massive fires. You have to maintain the tension of the wires and keep branches from breaking the lines. These winds are wicked.


12 posted on 11/09/2018 8:50:54 PM PST by HighSierra5
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Just to give you an idea of what hapened yesterday in Paradise. 6453 homes destroyed—burned to the ground in an afternoon. 240 businesses gone. Magalia is still burning so we don’t know what extent of homes burned there yet. 90K+ acres in little more than a day and a half. Amazing.


13 posted on 11/09/2018 9:07:43 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: palmer

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/21/brown-signs-bill-allowing-utilities-to-pass-costs-of-wildfire-lawsuits-onto-consumers/


14 posted on 11/09/2018 9:27:00 PM PST by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: Mr. Blond
When rich people are left homeless, it's a tragedy .
When poor people are left homeless, it's a nuisance.
15 posted on 11/09/2018 9:27:22 PM PST by oldbrowser (The government did not create the people. The people created the government.)
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To: Fungi

The tax payers are on the hook thanks to Gov Moonbeam.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/21/brown-signs-bill-allowing-utilities-to-pass-costs-of-wildfire-lawsuits-onto-consumers/


16 posted on 11/09/2018 9:28:36 PM PST by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: rintintin

Utilities are the go-to perp in hopes of accessing the deep pockets and furthering the liberal agenda of labeling utilities as “EVIL”!


17 posted on 11/09/2018 9:32:48 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: rintintin

The winds had as much to do with it as the brush and other fuel. It was like standing behind a 747 on takeoff, according to my sources who were in the middle of it.


18 posted on 11/09/2018 9:41:38 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: rintintin

My wife us the Director of Ops for Travelers Property and called it last night. “Probably PG-E”!


19 posted on 11/09/2018 9:45:06 PM PST by partyrepub
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To: CaptainK

I’m starting to wonder if Jerry and PGE haven’t formed some kind of unholy alliance.


20 posted on 11/09/2018 9:58:16 PM PST by Califreak (Take Me Back To Constantinople)
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