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Republicans Will Still Win In Florida, Despite The Fraud
townhall.com ^ | 11/9/18 | Guy Benson

Posted on 11/09/2018 10:41:00 AM PST by Evil Slayer

Bottom Line in Florida: Broward County Election Officials Have Been Violating the Law

By now, you know that Republicans are raising the alarm over what's happening in Florida, as the margins apparent election night GOP victories -- punctuated by Democratic concessions -- are being whittled down in a heavily blue county. As expected, Democrats are falsely accusing the GOP of wanting to stop the process of counting votes. Republicans counter by raising a top Broward County election official's known history of malfeasance and incompetence, aggressively accusing the opposition party of try to steal an election, noting that the county has "discovered" tens of thousands of votes since election day, refusing to say how many more there are, or where they've been. Some of this may be dismissed as partisan shouting over the dramatic denouement of yet another tight Florida contest. But it's important to understand that overwhelmingly liberal Broward and Palm Beach Counties have been in ongoing violation of election law. That is the central issue here:

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TOPICS: Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: broward; fl; florida; recount; votefraud
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To: JediJones

“...you can’t....you can’t.......you can’t.......”

Yes you can and they do.....if there is a will there will be a way.....


41 posted on 11/09/2018 1:07:37 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: napscoordinator

If the fox is in the henhouse, you’re going to have problems no matter how you do the voting. I think the State just needs to take this over.


42 posted on 11/09/2018 1:09:27 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: M Kehoe

I still have my “Sore Loserman” T-shirt


43 posted on 11/09/2018 2:13:41 PM PST by VastRWCon (Fake News)
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To: JediJones
If you have to rely on humans reading and counting ANYTHING, you open things up to errors and very easy fraud. You can't "throw out" electronic votes. You can't "find" electronic votes. And you can't miscount or misread them.

You have it completely backwards. Paper is secure, as long as provenance is maintained. If it is not, then the ballots should not be counted. Paper ballots can be burned out back in the firepit, but paper doesn't burn very well in dense stacks.

In contrast the electronic records are completely at the mercy of the admins. And the admins are cheating, lying Dems.

44 posted on 11/09/2018 3:32:39 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Brilliant; napscoordinator
Virginia is fairly secure. They are paper ballots. The ovals have to filled with ink, and most people don't screw it up. The paper ballot is handed out after a voter is marked as having voted in the computer (computer is not on the internet and printouts are available if the computers go down).

Then the voter fills in the ballot and inserts it into the counting machine. At the end of the day the counting machine has to match the counts on the voter check-off computer. The ballots are computer scanned, and can be rescanned for recounts. The ballots are stored securely in the box that counts and scans them.

While I am not an expert, I do not see too many ways this can be subverted. Luckily Virginia does not allow early voting except with a valid reason. Also you must have an ID to get a ballot.

45 posted on 11/09/2018 3:39:12 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer

Like I said previously if you want to commit fraud that is not going to stop you. Ballots can be manufactured or destroyed. The problem with Broward is that they want to commit fraud, not that their system is defective.


46 posted on 11/09/2018 5:44:17 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Amendment10

The State of Florida needs to pass a resolution voting Broward and Palm Beach counties out of the state and making them the 6th borough of New York.


47 posted on 11/10/2018 7:39:30 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: palmer

There’s nothing secure about paper at all. No modern company runs on paper.

Look at these mail-in ballots where signatures have to be verified. Signatures can be faked. And GOP ballots can be thrown out at will because the counter didn’t “believe” the signatures matched.

A machine can be made entirely secure. It all depends how good the design is. It can even do a retinal scan for each vote to make sure the same person doesn’t vote twice. It’s just a matter of how many safeguards you want to put into it.


48 posted on 11/10/2018 5:30:23 PM PST by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: JediJones
I'm no stranger to technology. I've written proposals for various ways for people to use cryptographic mechanisms for voting. The biggest problem is registration including verification of uniqueness (isn't registered elsewhere), citizenship, etc.

It can even do a retinal scan for each vote to make sure the same person doesn’t vote twice.

That would require a federal database of retinal scans. Otherwise the same person could vote again in a nearby state. Suffice to say that privacy of the vote and safekeeping of personal information are nontrivial and sometimes conflicting.

49 posted on 11/10/2018 6:42:51 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer

I wouldn’t expect the verification to work across state lines. I wouldn’t necessarily even expect it to work beyond that single machine. Having people registered in multiple locations is a tougher issue like you say, but it’s not the main suspect of widespread fraud. This would be trying to address fraud at the precinct level by corrupt local officials. If every vote has to be recorded by the machine and the machine would reject the same person trying to cast a second vote, then it makes it much tougher on them to create a large amount of fake votes than would just filling in a stack of blank ballots. The most they could create would be their number of machines multiplied by their number of people involved in their scheme.


50 posted on 11/10/2018 9:30:19 PM PST by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: JediJones

Yes, I had not thought too much about the fake vote creation back when I wrote my papers. I naively assumed elections officials were honest and followed the law. I agree that a properly designed machine could do what you say. But there are still lots of other requirements for that same machine that complicate the design.


51 posted on 11/11/2018 6:15:21 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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