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El Capos Sons Now Running His Drug Empire
NY Post ^ | 3 Nov 2018 | Isabel Vincent

Posted on 11/04/2018 6:34:20 AM PST by Seruzawa

Mexican drug kingpin Joaquin Guzman “El Chapo” Loera may be going on trial tomorrow in Brooklyn federal court, but the billion dollar cartel he founded is still flourishing under the direction of his two favorite sons.

“… The defendant’s sons remain in charge of his vast drug trafficking empire,” reads a recent letter from the US Attorneys preparing to try Guzman’s case.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: drugs; wod
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For those who believe the Drug War can be won.
1 posted on 11/04/2018 6:34:20 AM PST by Seruzawa
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To: Seruzawa

How much of that billion is our tax dollars funneled through social programs?


2 posted on 11/04/2018 6:39:58 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

These guys are a legitimate target for military strike to take them out.. No doubt they have contacts in the Mexican govt that know where they are and are sheltering them. They kill thousands of our citizens every year. That is the kind of war we should be fighting. Forget police and courts...it will never get the job done.


4 posted on 11/04/2018 6:44:13 AM PST by Oldexpat (Jobs Not Mobs)
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To: Seruzawa
the billion dollar cartel he founded is still flourishing under the direction of his two favorite sons.The CIA,DEA and ATF

There, Fixed it!!
5 posted on 11/04/2018 6:47:31 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Oldexpat
These guys are a legitimate target for military strike to take them out

No offense intended, but Put the Pipe Down, The CIA will NEVER let that happen. The War on Drugs is there major cash cow and funding mechanism..
6 posted on 11/04/2018 6:49:59 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

I think you may be on to something....


7 posted on 11/04/2018 6:56:25 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Seruzawa

One of the best proposals (Ted Cruz) for funding building the wall, was to use asset forfeiture from criminals.

El Chapo (Shorty) is reputed to have $13 billion in assets that could be seized if he is convicted - Enough to build a thousand miles of high end barrier ($13 mil/mile, Trump barrier ranges from $4 mil to $25 mil/mile).

One good thing about this proposal - a Mexican would be paying for the wall.

An even better proposal for wall funding (Alabama Congressman Bradley Byrne), is to create a special account for that purpose, and allow the President or Congress to sweep any extra money into it, including non-appropriated revenues like asset forfeiture, or possibly tariffs.

If enough categories are opened for contributions, the Administration could be incentivized to find cost savings or revenues for the wall, and after the wall was funded, those savings or revenues would be improvements to the baseline budget.


8 posted on 11/04/2018 6:56:36 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: Seruzawa; All
Mr. Sean Penn? Please pick up the White Courtesy Phone in the Lobby." *SPIT*


9 posted on 11/04/2018 6:57:24 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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To: Seruzawa

If we can set aside the other cost/benefit issues of the prohibition of mind altering drugs for a moment, I fail to see how the existence of criminal gangs means “the war on drugs can’t be won.” By that measure no law can be enforced because the crime never goes away.


10 posted on 11/04/2018 7:01:36 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Seruzawa

I find this perversely heartwarming. Many wealthy, powerful parents hope that their offspring can inherit and grow the family business, but often it doesn’t work out.

The Clintons hoped that Chelsea could continue their political/fake charity grifting, but it’s becoming obvious she’s not up to the task.

John Gotti’s son is not up to the task.

Nth generation Kennedy’s usually are a weak imitation of their forbears.

The Baby Bushes are trying, but with only modest success.

Young Soros has the will, but it remains to be seen if he has the way.


11 posted on 11/04/2018 7:04:29 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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Bet he wishes Hitlery had won. He’d be free and running his business.


12 posted on 11/04/2018 7:27:28 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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I fail to see how the existence of criminal gangs means “the war on drugs can’t be won.”

It's not their existence, it's the market pressure for their replacement when arrested (or killed) - a pressure that does not exist for crimes with direct victims, but only for consensual adult vices.

13 posted on 11/04/2018 8:49:28 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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What’s the market pressure for robbery, counterfitting, and extortion? It seems to me that crime is the market pressure.


14 posted on 11/04/2018 12:51:11 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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What’s the market pressure for robbery, counterfitting, and extortion?

None - that's my point.

It seems to me that crime is the market pressure.

No, when criminals are meeting their own demand for e.g. the proceeds of robbery, arresting them decreases that demand. By contrast, when a drug dealer is arrested, drug buyers' demand for drugs remains.

15 posted on 11/04/2018 12:56:17 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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When a mob boss is arrested, the non drug related criminal activities continue with another leader just as they do with drug related crimes. Furthermore, cartel drug crimes continue even after legalization.


16 posted on 11/04/2018 3:38:04 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: NobleFree

Furthermore you miss demand in non drug related crimes too easily. There is most certainly demand for “hot” merchandise that can be sold for half the retail price. Hijacking trailer loads of merchandise and selling the products to unscrupulous retailers is an old mafia business. I don’t see that any different from the drug business in terms of supply and demand. Same with non-taxed cigarettes.


17 posted on 11/04/2018 3:45:05 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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Hijacking trailer loads of merchandise and selling the products to unscrupulous retailers is an old mafia business.

How much crime is mafia-committed? And where is the market demand for rape or murder? It's very much not the case that "By that measure no law can be enforced because the crime never goes away."

18 posted on 11/04/2018 7:52:31 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: SoCal Pubbie

If you overtax any product, you’re going to get a black market. The example of cigarettes makes that point.

Cigarettes are “smuggled” out of low-tax states into places like NY where the taxes are prohibitive.

From the National Tax Foundation, 2015 figures =>

Excessive tax rates on cigarettes approach de facto prohibition in some states, inducing black and gray market movement of tobacco products into high-tax states from low-tax states or foreign sources.

New York has the highest inbound smuggling activity, with an estimated 56.8 percent of cigarettes consumed in the state deriving from smuggled sources in 2015. New York is followed by Arizona (44.8 percent of consumption smuggled), Washington (43.7 percent), New Mexico (41.4 percent), and Minnesota (35.9 percent).

New Hampshire has the highest level of outbound smuggling at 71.9 percent of consumption, likely due to its relatively low tax rates and proximity to high-tax states in the northeastern United States. Following New Hampshire is Idaho (22.5 percent outbound smuggling), Virginia (20.7 percent), Delaware (20.3 percent), and West Virginia (18.4 percent).

https://taxfoundation.org/cigarette-tax-cigarette-smuggling-2015/


19 posted on 11/04/2018 7:52:57 PM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: NobleFree
I don’t know, how much crime does the Mafia commit? Quite a lot I would say, at least back in the day. Now there are all sorts of criminal gangs. Russian, Chinese, Jamaican, and so on. Not all of itheir activities are directly drug related.

I still fail to see how one drug kingpin replacing another is fundamentally different than with other kinds of criminal structures.

As for rape in murder, I’m not sure why you even brought those crimes up.

20 posted on 11/04/2018 11:42:50 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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