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Migrants traveling to US sue Trump, government; claim violation of constitutional rights
Fox News ^ | 11/2/2018 | Edmund DeMarche, Amy Lieu

Posted on 11/02/2018 5:05:16 AM PDT by BradtotheBone

A dozen migrants traveling by foot from Honduras to the U.S. to seek asylum filed a class-action lawsuit Thursday against President Trump, the Department of Homeland Security and others, claiming a violation of their due process under the Fifth Amendment.

The Fifth Amendment states that, "no person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

A recent PBS report cited former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who ruled in 1993 case that "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in a deportation proceeding."

Twelve Honduran nationals, including six children, are listed as plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The suit, which was filed Thursday in the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., said it is widely known that Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are “undergoing a well-documented human rights crisis.” The lawsuit also claims that the plaintiffs’ right to the Administrative Procedures Act and the Declaratory Judgement Act were being infringed upon.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; badcaselaw; citizenship; falsepremises; incompetentlaw; jurisdiction; notsubjectto; stakeholderlies; standing
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1 posted on 11/02/2018 5:05:16 AM PDT by BradtotheBone
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To: BradtotheBone

Shouldn’t this be posted under “Humor” or “Satire?”


2 posted on 11/02/2018 5:06:22 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler ("NUTS!!!")
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To: BradtotheBone

Avavatti, is that you?


3 posted on 11/02/2018 5:06:59 AM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: BradtotheBone
Let's see the context of the entire ruling. I'm sure there's a big difference between deporting someone who's overstayed their visa vs. a criminal, illegal alien who entered our country illegally in the first place.

The first doesn't start out being a felon. The second does.

4 posted on 11/02/2018 5:07:56 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: BradtotheBone

The hilarity of this story is only subdued by it’s insanity.


5 posted on 11/02/2018 5:09:20 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: BradtotheBone

In Yo Face, America! In you face.


6 posted on 11/02/2018 5:09:36 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: BradtotheBone

They’re not even in the United States yet. This lawsuit should get tossed at preliminary hearing due to a lack of standing.


7 posted on 11/02/2018 5:09:45 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: BradtotheBone

The first two words that came to mind.

NO STANDING


8 posted on 11/02/2018 5:10:17 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: BradtotheBone

And here I thought that a deportation process was different from a claim of asylum. I always was taught that your rights as a citizen didn’t kick in until you had passed through border (customs) control.


9 posted on 11/02/2018 5:11:45 AM PDT by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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To: BradtotheBone

Gross misapplication of the law and intellectual dishonesty.


10 posted on 11/02/2018 5:11:55 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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To: Peter W. Kessler

Let me get this straight. These amigos aren’t even in the country yet?


11 posted on 11/02/2018 5:12:07 AM PDT by nikos1121 (With Trump, we have our own Age of Pericles)
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To: americas.best.days...
Nexus Services Inc. is funding the lawsuits through a civil rights law firm called Nexus Derechos Humanos (Human Rights) Attorneys Inc.
13 posted on 11/02/2018 5:17:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: BradtotheBone

My word!!! If this lawsuit is allowed to proceed, and some crazy judge will allow it to, what is the limit? What is to stop some foreign government to sue to stop U.S. military action against it, or tariffs, or sanctions? All they would have to do is have their citizens sue for a violation of their constitutional rights.

The irony here is that to left, the migrants have more rights than us deplorables or even a guy like, say, Brett Kavanaugh.


14 posted on 11/02/2018 5:19:40 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: BradtotheBone

we need a constitutional amendment that states that foreign nationals shall have no access to U.S. civil courts excepting disputes involving foreign nationals who are a direct party to a U.S. civil contract.


15 posted on 11/02/2018 5:22:05 AM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: jerod

What rights? Persons who are alien to the United States (or any other country in this world, for the matter), have only the right to petition for entry, on whatever basis that is acceptable by the host country to whom they are appealing.

Asylum is a favor which may or may not be granted by the nation which is approached, and relies on a varied set of criteria which may not always be the same in every instance. Other reasons for entering the country targeted may include a personal admiration for the ideals expressed in that culture, or for economic advantage, or because the invitation was extended to attract a certain kind of immigrant, based on skills, or attained educational level, or a good reputation attained elsewhere.

But nowhere is there a right, constitutional or otherwise, to DEMAND to enter a country based only on the criteria “I want to come in and I want to do it regardless of your feelings on the matter.”

Should Christians demand to be allowed to enter Muslim-majority countries and establish church congregations? Would that demand be honored? The question, framed in that manner, reflects the positions taken by just about every other society or culture in the world.

The fast answer is always “No”, or maybe even “Oh, HELL, NO!”


16 posted on 11/02/2018 5:24:03 AM PDT by alloysteel (In my defense, I was left unsupervised.)
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To: BradtotheBone
A dozen migrants traveling by foot from Honduras to the U.S. to seek asylum filed a class-action lawsuit

A couple of left-wing lawyers hoping to cash in on the misery of others filed a class-action lawsuit

17 posted on 11/02/2018 5:24:19 AM PDT by jdege
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To: BradtotheBone

They aren’t even here yet???

LOL!


18 posted on 11/02/2018 5:26:20 AM PDT by MEG33 (Help Shorten FReepathons......DONATE MONTHLY)
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To: Yo-Yo
Exactly. To accept it is to invite chaos. If these Hondurans a thousand miles away, who have never even set foot in the US can claim "Constitutional Rights" in the US... Then why do we have borders? Literally everyone in the world has "rights" within the US. Take this case, and we are {expletive} finished.

This is just a wet dream for lawyers. They can begin trolling through any third world country looking for clients, and suing not only on their client's behalf, but for their own expenses and legal fees too of course. Well, maybe they'll send their paralegals to the third world s*** holes while they stay here safe and comfortable. But their income would be limited only by the number of courts they could simultaneously file in and the case throughput of those courts.

19 posted on 11/02/2018 5:29:49 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: BradtotheBone
I have the bad feeling that US Taxpayers are paying for the lawyers who brought this suit.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 11/02/2018 5:30:40 AM PDT by ml/nj (.)
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