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INSIGHT FROM MY HONDURAN HALF OF THE FAMILY ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION (Vanity)
My Family | 29 Oct 2018 | Salvavida

Posted on 10/29/2018 9:10:42 PM PDT by Salvavida

My Honduran-born wife uses Facebook to keep in touch with her family in Honduras. Many posts are her thoughts on the topic of the day, and immigration and politics are certainly represented in what she posts. A little about my wife, she served as an interviewer inside of a US Consulate in Latin America, and is thoroughly familiar with immigration law, the process, and the plight of those wishing to visit or immigrate to the US. She is 100% against illegal immigration. Why? Among other things, she also served as a finance officer of a hospital in Northern Virginia, and saw it change hands as a result of immigrants using the Emergency Room as their primary care, and the draining of the charitable foundations that are typically put aside for Americans that cannot pay. My wife gets it. She knows where blessing comes from: American hearts and their taxes.

Naturally, her family responds to the posts and I thought it might be informative to the readership to know the mind of an average middle class family from Honduras. Note that in the past 20 years, my wife and I paid for medical school, law school, and refrigeration vocational-tech school.

A. Here is a summation of the responses from various family members, I distilled them into these main ideas:

- 1. Her family is upset that she is not "in solidarity" with them, and my wife "forgot where she came from."

- 2. They assert the migrants just want to work and to flee the gang violence.

- 3. Hondurans cannot change their government-- it's too corrupt, so the US is their only hope..

- 4. They generally had no concept of how Americans thought about this-- they are thinking it's POTUS and a minority. (Comment- This is courtesy of the leftist press there as well.)

- 5. From their point of view, everyone knows friends or family members here, and know they live a life substantially better than they will ever have. So what has changed to cause a border confrontation?

(Hint: DJT's politics)

B. Here are implications that were not considered from their arguments:

- 1. Law breaking. The end justifies the mean, situational ethics.

- 2. No understanding of the concept of taxes (most Central Americans are not taxed- a Value Added Tax (VAT) is added onto most sales, nor the financial burden Americans have (welfare, medical, children's schools, etc) shouldered.

- 3. No respect for what Americans have built, and what was sacrificed. They want to partake because being poor sucks.

C. How are illegals able to stay (everyone knows this from the immigrant side, it's the Americans that need education):

There are no consequences.

No government form of ID is required to get housing.

No one comes after an over-stayed visa.

Access to school is free.

Saturation of pro-immigrant lawyers in the US.

D. Conclusion: The time has come to where migrants want your stuff, and there is nothing detering them. They have abandoned being citizens of their own countries. They are incapable of governing themselves, and being governed. They certainly do not think like Americans nor anything in which we value. Their system doesn't produce responsible, moral citizens. It produces a people that wants stuff. And they want it now.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; honduras; hondurascaravan; illegalsinvasion; immigration; invasion
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

And illegal immigrants who committed a crime to enter this country and commit a crime every single day they are here.

I have family members who do stupid things too. They’re here legally and pay for their mistakes, in jail or otherwise.

Another sob story.


241 posted on 11/14/2018 10:46:49 PM PST by Twink
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To: Twink

Yes


242 posted on 11/14/2018 10:48:32 PM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

We must crush legal and illegal immigration. Legal, because we’re importing the dregs of society who get free stuff here an illegal because they are criminals.

Bleeding hearts be damned. You care, then you get to house and pay for them.

You can’t just crush CNN you have to crush the culture.


243 posted on 11/14/2018 10:49:32 PM PST by Twink
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To: Salvavida

Really?

Let’s see how that works.


244 posted on 11/14/2018 10:50:13 PM PST by Twink
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To: nopardons

You are a known “quantity.” I like that, lol.

You do stick to your point and that could be seen as “haranguing” by illiterates. And you post facts which upset people who don’t.

I’ve hit the abuse button twice in my decade plus here. This was one of the times.

I so enjoy reading your posts. One of the few.


245 posted on 11/14/2018 10:56:27 PM PST by Twink
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To: ssschev

Another thing learned is island paradise, like Jamaica, Costa Rica, blah blah blah, is two parts, one is poverty. And all Island places have nice, friendly people who love rich people and tourists.

RME.


246 posted on 11/14/2018 10:59:34 PM PST by Twink
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To: caww

Yes that’s true.

It IS a message board, social media, after all. LOL

All those “Christian” churches providing government aid and all.

Whatever. LOL


247 posted on 11/14/2018 11:08:23 PM PST by Twink
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To: caww

I thought he was your savior? lol

Wasn’t he supposed to fix all this as you said in your post?


248 posted on 11/14/2018 11:09:21 PM PST by Twink
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To: caww

Nope. I didn’t miss the point.

You just pretend to smarter than you are.


249 posted on 11/14/2018 11:10:00 PM PST by Twink
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To: Twink

Well whatever bug you’ve got biting best to wrap this conversation up for another time.....Have a pleasant night.


250 posted on 11/14/2018 11:26:42 PM PST by caww
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To: Twink

Because I comprehend what I read. Read the story.


251 posted on 11/15/2018 1:19:51 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Twink

Post #41 is where he tells this story...to save you time.


252 posted on 11/15/2018 1:29:22 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
Costa Rica is a very rich country and Honduras is very poor. The citizens of Costa Rica have known all their lives that they could be over run by their poor neighbors. Hence they maintain their border.

And yet I have missionary friends who go to Costa Rica every year and are constantly fund raising for the clothing and education of the people in their target area. I guess it's relative.

253 posted on 11/15/2018 3:03:18 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("The word 'racist' is used to describe 'every Republican that's winning'" --Donald Trump)
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To: Twink
I'm not sure why you have a giant chip on your shoulder, but you can look it up.

Yes, Costa Ricans are poorer than us.

Still, they export few people to the United States and even admit a modest number of people from other Central American counties.

Obviously, they are doing something right that other Central American counties should seek to emulate.

Bottom line is that we have 4% of the world's land area, 5% of the world's population and something like 70% of the world's population would like to move here if they could. 70% of that 70% are not interested in adopting American values. They are interested in milking us for free stuff and turning their own little enclave into a carbon copy of the $#*+hole country they want to leave.

This is an unsustainable model. Adopting the capitalist system and freedom we have here is a far more sustainable and realistic model.

Even if they only get part way there . . . like Costa Rica.

254 posted on 11/15/2018 4:49:01 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I would trust your friends more than me. I am not a frequent visitor anymore — and I was speaking in very general terms. I agree with you that things are very relative.


255 posted on 11/15/2018 8:04:58 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: Twink

The post was 15 days ago in OCT. This is Nov 15.


256 posted on 11/15/2018 9:59:26 AM PST by Lumper20 (DC is AFGE Union Punks,Our Congress Critters have AFGE INS plus FERS.)
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To: Twink

I am so sorry to hear of your daughter’s illness, Twink. Asking God for his grace and mercy for her.


257 posted on 11/15/2018 7:51:28 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("The word 'racist' is used to describe 'every Republican that's winning'" --Donald Trump)
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To: Lumper20

And? So?

Not all of us Freepers check daily.


258 posted on 11/18/2018 6:35:32 PM PST by Twink
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To: Albion Wilde

Thanks. It is what it is. Just tired of paying for the welfare recipients and illegals while they get everything for free due to the taxpayers. I have no fucks to give for anyone else who gets free medical when we pay every cent along with premiums, etc.

As for illegal immigration, and most of our legal immigration, I’m astounded by what we have become.


259 posted on 11/18/2018 6:42:35 PM PST by Twink
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