Posted on 10/29/2018 9:10:42 PM PDT by Salvavida
My Honduran-born wife uses Facebook to keep in touch with her family in Honduras. Many posts are her thoughts on the topic of the day, and immigration and politics are certainly represented in what she posts. A little about my wife, she served as an interviewer inside of a US Consulate in Latin America, and is thoroughly familiar with immigration law, the process, and the plight of those wishing to visit or immigrate to the US. She is 100% against illegal immigration. Why? Among other things, she also served as a finance officer of a hospital in Northern Virginia, and saw it change hands as a result of immigrants using the Emergency Room as their primary care, and the draining of the charitable foundations that are typically put aside for Americans that cannot pay. My wife gets it. She knows where blessing comes from: American hearts and their taxes.
Naturally, her family responds to the posts and I thought it might be informative to the readership to know the mind of an average middle class family from Honduras. Note that in the past 20 years, my wife and I paid for medical school, law school, and refrigeration vocational-tech school.
A. Here is a summation of the responses from various family members, I distilled them into these main ideas:
- 1. Her family is upset that she is not "in solidarity" with them, and my wife "forgot where she came from."
- 2. They assert the migrants just want to work and to flee the gang violence.
- 3. Hondurans cannot change their government-- it's too corrupt, so the US is their only hope..
- 4. They generally had no concept of how Americans thought about this-- they are thinking it's POTUS and a minority. (Comment- This is courtesy of the leftist press there as well.)
- 5. From their point of view, everyone knows friends or family members here, and know they live a life substantially better than they will ever have. So what has changed to cause a border confrontation?
(Hint: DJT's politics)
B. Here are implications that were not considered from their arguments:
- 1. Law breaking. The end justifies the mean, situational ethics.
- 2. No understanding of the concept of taxes (most Central Americans are not taxed- a Value Added Tax (VAT) is added onto most sales, nor the financial burden Americans have (welfare, medical, children's schools, etc) shouldered.
- 3. No respect for what Americans have built, and what was sacrificed. They want to partake because being poor sucks.
C. How are illegals able to stay (everyone knows this from the immigrant side, it's the Americans that need education):
There are no consequences.
No government form of ID is required to get housing.
No one comes after an over-stayed visa.
Access to school is free.
Saturation of pro-immigrant lawyers in the US.
D. Conclusion: The time has come to where migrants want your stuff, and there is nothing detering them. They have abandoned being citizens of their own countries. They are incapable of governing themselves, and being governed. They certainly do not think like Americans nor anything in which we value. Their system doesn't produce responsible, moral citizens. It produces a people that wants stuff. And they want it now.
And illegal immigrants who committed a crime to enter this country and commit a crime every single day they are here.
I have family members who do stupid things too. They’re here legally and pay for their mistakes, in jail or otherwise.
Another sob story.
Yes
We must crush legal and illegal immigration. Legal, because we’re importing the dregs of society who get free stuff here an illegal because they are criminals.
Bleeding hearts be damned. You care, then you get to house and pay for them.
You can’t just crush CNN you have to crush the culture.
Really?
Let’s see how that works.
You are a known “quantity.” I like that, lol.
You do stick to your point and that could be seen as “haranguing” by illiterates. And you post facts which upset people who don’t.
I’ve hit the abuse button twice in my decade plus here. This was one of the times.
I so enjoy reading your posts. One of the few.
Another thing learned is island paradise, like Jamaica, Costa Rica, blah blah blah, is two parts, one is poverty. And all Island places have nice, friendly people who love rich people and tourists.
RME.
Yes that’s true.
It IS a message board, social media, after all. LOL
All those “Christian” churches providing government aid and all.
Whatever. LOL
I thought he was your savior? lol
Wasn’t he supposed to fix all this as you said in your post?
Nope. I didn’t miss the point.
You just pretend to smarter than you are.
Well whatever bug you’ve got biting best to wrap this conversation up for another time.....Have a pleasant night.
Because I comprehend what I read. Read the story.
Post #41 is where he tells this story...to save you time.
And yet I have missionary friends who go to Costa Rica every year and are constantly fund raising for the clothing and education of the people in their target area. I guess it's relative.
Yes, Costa Ricans are poorer than us.
Still, they export few people to the United States and even admit a modest number of people from other Central American counties.
Obviously, they are doing something right that other Central American counties should seek to emulate.
Bottom line is that we have 4% of the world's land area, 5% of the world's population and something like 70% of the world's population would like to move here if they could. 70% of that 70% are not interested in adopting American values. They are interested in milking us for free stuff and turning their own little enclave into a carbon copy of the $#*+hole country they want to leave.
This is an unsustainable model. Adopting the capitalist system and freedom we have here is a far more sustainable and realistic model.
Even if they only get part way there . . . like Costa Rica.
I would trust your friends more than me. I am not a frequent visitor anymore — and I was speaking in very general terms. I agree with you that things are very relative.
The post was 15 days ago in OCT. This is Nov 15.
I am so sorry to hear of your daughter’s illness, Twink. Asking God for his grace and mercy for her.
And? So?
Not all of us Freepers check daily.
Thanks. It is what it is. Just tired of paying for the welfare recipients and illegals while they get everything for free due to the taxpayers. I have no fucks to give for anyone else who gets free medical when we pay every cent along with premiums, etc.
As for illegal immigration, and most of our legal immigration, I’m astounded by what we have become.
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