Posted on 10/29/2018 6:20:25 AM PDT by marktwain
Amazing how often, especially shooters, forget this and get caught up in weapons, which one is more accurate, better etc. etc. Hickok45 of youtube fame and someone who can hit a vollyball at 300 yards with iron sights made a very profound statement. When discussing this issue of which gun is most accurate he pointed out that virtually any modern firearm (the discussion was about rifles) "can shoot better than I can. I am the limiting factor on just about any rifle I shoot. They pretty much all work like they were designed to" He's absolutely right. The time you spend at the range, not the weapon, is what makes you an effective shooter.
I’ve read a number of articles about this incident (not just the one linked to on Ammoland) and a couple things stand out at me. For one, Kirkland’s (the one shooting the .22) girlfriend is the sister of the deceased’s wife. Second, alcohol was involved (never said who was drinking, just that alcohol was involved) - my guess from grand jury verdict would indicate that it wasn’t Kirkland who was drinking. Third, Kirkland did himself no favors by leaving the scene after the shooting with his live-in girlfriend in tow before cops arrived - I suspect that contributed to the high bond being set, at least compared to if he had stuck around long enough to tell the cops on scene his side of the story.
Lastly - I hope Kirkland (or his g/f) have the common sense to realize that them being a couple isn’t such a good thing.......
I thought that the teenager was the one with the 22.
I saw a reference to that. Can't say it is so or not. One article was not even sure if Martinez was married or not.
My suspicion is that the two women are sisters.
Yes, it would have been better if he had stayed at the scene.
At 19, I do not know if I would have done as well or not.
55 days in the slammer would be hard on a relashonship, as would shooting a girlfriend's, sister's husband...
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>> “Yoakum, Texas” <<
Isn’t that where Li’l Abner and Daisy Mae live?
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Well said. Ball ammo for me as well. Fancy stuff could be used to prove intent.
Shot placement wins.
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Amen to that. Marine rifle training preaches this rule all the time. It’s not how many rounds you can send down range, it’s how many hit the target. Rifle fire discipline tactics teach you to conserve your ammo and not waste it. Ammo conservation is one of the lost disciplines today, brought about by the auto/semi-auto firearm - spraying lead everywhere with few results. This does not mean there aren’t times when rapid fields of fire are appropriate.
“Prowess in hunting and war have been linked forever. “
Sgt York was proof of that, in WWI.
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>> “I wonder how many shots Martinez fired after being fatally wounded?” <<
My bet is very few, maybe none.
A .22LR to the sternum has to be incredibly painful, and may have rendered him unable to function long before he bled out.
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>> “He probably knows how to use it.” <<
The fact that he relied on a small caliber single shot tends to affirm that thought!
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One other observation: angry people will often shoot at *things* if they don’t have a clear human target. This wastes ammo and identifies their location.
A calm, rational shooter will only shoot at an identifiable, hostile human target.
Golf balls in the sand dunes. Good fun.
Another killing directly linked to alcohol use.
Indeed. And the first rule of gunfighting is: Have a gun.
“If Marty Robbins were still around, we might get a nice song out of this”
I like the one about the blind ranger
“Things,,”
Interesting.
I'd like to know if that was the first shot of the gunfight or the last.
I’ve killed white tail deer with a .22lr. So yeah...its a dangerous round.
They lived in Dog Patch.
“I’d like to know if that was the first shot of the gunfight or the last. “
I would guess that if he needed more shots, he would have fired more than once.
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