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Bad hombres found in migrant caravan approaching America
Hotair.com ^ | October 28, 2018 | Karen Townsend

Posted on 10/28/2018 1:02:54 PM PDT by Kaslin

It won’t be a shock for you to read that some really bad hombres have been discovered to be among the migrant caravan, some 7,000 strong, walking towards the southern border of America. The folks at Judicial Watch have interviewed some who have previously been deported and are now trying to get back in and some more nefarious characters, like human traffickers. They’ve also met with Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales.

Judicial Watch has obtained exclusive information and photos from Guatemalan authorities revealing that they have recovered seven unaccompanied minors from human smugglers working inside the caravan. The children have been taken into custody and they are being provided with food, water and medical attention, according to a high-level Guatemalan government official. The smugglers have been arrested and the broader investigation into criminal activity in the caravan is ongoing.

A Judicial Watch team, headed by Director of Investigations Chris Farrell, spent several days on the Guatemala-Honduras border covering the illegal alien caravan, which originated in the northern Honduran city of San Pedro Sula. The team filed a number of exclusive reports and videos and met with Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales and other top government officials.

The narrative being pushed by the gullible media is that these Central Americans are poor and hungry, looking for jobs and a better life. However, that’s a pretty big fantasy in the minds of regular Americans who watch news coverage of a stream of people walking towards America demanding to be let in. When interviewed, the same talking points are offered and the whole thing seems to be staged.

All of the migrants interviewed by Judicial Watch repeated the same rehearsed line when asked who organized the caravan, insisting it was a spontaneous event even though there were clearly organizers shouting instructions in Spanish and putting select persons in front of cameras for interviews. A few claimed they heard about it on local news in Honduras. All of them said the caravan was not about politics but rather poverty. “I just want to get back to the U.S.,” said a 32-year-old man who admitted he has been deported from the U.S. twice. “We are all just looking for work.” The group radiated a sense of empowerment. One marcher, who appeared to be in his late teens, yelled “you go live in Honduras and see what it’s like!”

I have no doubt that life is hard in Honduras. But, life is hard in many countries. This isn’t a new development that happened overnight, resulting in thousands of people deciding en masse to just start walking to America. Someone has to be behind it, someone who got the ball rolling, and the timing alone is suspicious. The Honduran president says as much.

Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández, a conservative, said in a local newspaper report that leftist interests seeking to destabilize the country are manipulating migrants. Women and children are being used without regard to the risks to their lives, Hernández said. “The irregular mobilization was organized for political reasons to negatively affect the governance and image of Honduras and to destabilize the peace of neighboring countries,” the president said, adding that many have returned to the country after realizing they’ve been fooled.

The Guatemalans and Hondurans being told that asylum is available in America will be disappointed to learn that simply coming for a better job does not meet the criteria for asylum. One caravan participant even admitted he isn’t afraid to live where he does, that he isn’t fleeing violence, but that he is coming for work.

Another man in his 30s contradicted media reports that caravan participants are fleeing violence and fear for their life. “We’re not scared,” he said waving his index finger as others around him nodded in agreement. “We’re going to the United States to get jobs.” Others chanted “vamos para allá Trump!” (We’re coming Trump) as they clenched their fists in the air. “We need money and food,” said a 29-year-old man who made the trek with his 21-year-old brother.

Clearly, the idea is to overwhelm borders as the caravan moves forward. Guatemala has returned 1700 to Honduras on buses and the government officials say the country just doesn’t have the resources to handle so many people. They claim that a group of 4,000 first tried to come through, followed by another group of 2,000. Reports of robberies and violence are being reported. Officials in both Guatemala and Honduras claim that “the caravan is a movement of radicalized forces to destabilize Central American countries.” “It’s very strategic and extremely organized,” a Guatemalan government source told Judicial Watch. “It is very complex, not a simple march. There is nothing spontaneous about it.”

I think common sense tells us that and that is exactly why so many Americans are angry that the caravan has the goal of reaching America. Mexico has offered a deal to accommodate the participants, as Jazz wrote about, but that help is being rejected. It’s the sense of entitlement coming from the migrants that is the most galling. They expect to be accommodated by the American taxpayer and our resources at the border with Mexico must be reinforced with additional American resources, in this case, the American military. President Trump ordered military support and Secretary of Defense Mattis signed off on at least 800 troops heading to the border. They will provide support and logistics to the Border Patrol. (AP)

Troops being sent at Trump’s direction would not be on armed security missions. They would assist the Border Patrol by providing things such as vehicles, tents and equipment. There already are about 2,000 National Guard members there under a previous Pentagon arrangement.

This Yahoo article admits there are, in fact, caravan organizers and these organizers are advising the marchers to rest Sunday instead of forging ahead. The magnitude of the miles to march is setting in and so is the resulting consequences. A child went missing Saturday and is feared to have been abducted. And, yes, this group that has reached Mexico is now being helped by the Mexican government to move forward. Swell.

For the first time an arm of the federal government seemed to be directly helping the migrants advance rather than trying to diminish the caravan. In this case Grupo Beta, Mexico’s migrant protection agency, gave rides to stragglers and passed out water.

The Mexican government can’t seem to decide how to handle the caravan.

The Mexican government seems torn between stopping the migrants from traveling toward the U.S. border or burnishing its international human rights image.

On Saturday, more than a hundred federal police dressed in riot gear blocked a rural highway in southern Mexico shortly before dawn to encourage the migrants to apply for refugee status in Mexico rather than continuing the long, arduous journey north. U.S. President Donald Trump has urged Mexico to prevent the caravan from reaching the border.

Police let the caravan proceed after representatives from Mexico’s National Human Rights Commission convinced them that a rural stretch of highway without shade, toilets or water was no place for migrants to entertain an offer of asylum. Many members of the caravan have been traveling for more than two weeks, since a group first formed in San Pedro Sula, Honduras.

Not long after the caravan resumed its advance Saturday, government officials lent them a hand.

So, while the open borders crowd wants to present the caravan as spontaneous and just a lot of desperate people who magically all appeared, it is clear that there are legitimate concerns. Proper vetting is crucial to protect our border. Jumping the line for the privilege of living in America is not acceptable. There are, indeed, gangbanger and nefarious actors from many countries among the crowd of people planning to swarm our border. This is all predictable.

The only way to prevent future caravans is exactly how President Trump and his administration is handling this one – with strong actions protecting America’s sovereignty. This has political elements to it, as the timing is not coincidental this close to mid-term elections. I think in this case, though, the stunt may well backfire and work to Trump’s advantage. Americans are outraged over the boldness of the caravan and seeing some continue to wave their native flags as they vow to storm our border such doesn’t work to the advantage of the open borders crowd.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: aliens; asylum; border; guatamala; honduras; invasion; migrantcaravan
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1 posted on 10/28/2018 1:02:54 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

That’s a given.


2 posted on 10/28/2018 1:04:26 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom

It should surprise no one.


3 posted on 10/28/2018 1:07:14 PM PDT by Kaslin (And that is not)
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To: Kaslin

All of them are bad

They believe Invasion is a civil right

That makes them worse then criminals

They are Invaders

We know how to deal with such people


4 posted on 10/28/2018 1:11:07 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

Obama screwed up the World


5 posted on 10/28/2018 1:11:47 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Kaslin

But will they vote Democrat?


6 posted on 10/28/2018 1:12:31 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Kaslin

Lets hope Trump will stop them by considering this an criminal foreign invasion.


7 posted on 10/28/2018 1:16:22 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Kaslin
“You go live in Honduras and see what it's like’’. Therein is encapsulated the the sloth, ignorance and stupidity of this garbage and the reason I HATE Mexicans, Central and South Americans. Screw up their own countries and just pick up and invade someone else's country and screw that up too. We're are so screwed. These assholes are going to get in.
8 posted on 10/28/2018 1:17:54 PM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Kaslin

Mexico is their highway to America. Apply maximum economic pressure on Mexico and watch how quickly the caravan is turned around. Until such time as Mexico feels serious financial pain they will not take any action to stop the invasion.

Time for negotiation and accepting excuses is over. The only thing foreign counties understand and respect is power and strength.


9 posted on 10/28/2018 1:19:47 PM PDT by Starboard (f)
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To: Kaslin

We can not let even one female with a child in.
They ALL must be stopped
but I am not sure we have the nerve to defend our own border.This horde is daring us.


10 posted on 10/28/2018 1:21:07 PM PDT by RWGinger (Does anyone else really)
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To: Logical me

Lets hope Trump will stop them by considering this an criminal foreign invasion.

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I’m not hopeful. Only determined actions against Mexico and our own active preparation and resolve will repel the invasion. The fact that the caravan is still heading our way means they and Mexico are not getting the message. The reality is that they are more determined than we are.

It is an invasion and it needs to be treated as such. I’m sorry but I just don’t see a sense of urgency or resolve given the massive problems heading our way.


11 posted on 10/28/2018 1:29:15 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: RWGinger

I am not sure we have the nerve to defend our own border

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Neither am I. If we don’t the rest of the world will notice our lack of resolve and act accordingly. This couldn’t be more serious.


12 posted on 10/28/2018 1:31:34 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“But will they vote Democrat?”

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Of course they will. Repeatedly.


13 posted on 10/28/2018 1:41:28 PM PDT by sevlex
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To: Starboard
The fact that the caravan is still heading our way

They are more than 1,000 miles away, still south of Mexico City. A lot can happen in 1,000 miles. Lots of folks down there are not happy about this, saying it's about internal politics in Honduras and Mexico, and it seems to me Trump has a lot of cards to play over the next several weeks to make things uncomfortable for Mexico.

This thing dragging on is--like the Kavanaugh fiasco--terrible optics for the Democrats.

14 posted on 10/28/2018 1:46:03 PM PDT by SamuraiScot (am)
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To: jmacusa

You shouldn’t hate them. Making the statement shows you’ve probably been influenced to think that way by democrats.


15 posted on 10/28/2018 1:52:53 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: SamuraiScot

They are more than 1,000 miles away, still south of Mexico City.

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Roughly half way here then. In terms of speed it will take them a few weeks to get here but in terms of determination WE are lagging them. They are relentlessly advancing on us and we’re still uncertain how to stop them.

We have to make it crystal clear to both the invaders and Mexico that we are not playing games. So far neither one has gotten the message.


16 posted on 10/28/2018 2:01:48 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

You are correct.
I think Trump would defend us but he may be alone .


17 posted on 10/28/2018 2:28:54 PM PDT by RWGinger (Does anyone else really)
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To: Starboard

I decided not to book a cruise on Carnival that goes to Mexico or Honduras. Cozumel is a favorite destination. That means no Jamaica or Cayman Islands either because both stop in Cozumel.


18 posted on 10/28/2018 3:10:55 PM PDT by FoundinTexas
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To: Starboard; SamuraiScot

intermediate locations, distances, rates, times

start: san pedro sula, oct. 13
current location: san pedro tapanatepec, oct. 27-28 (rest day)

distances:

san pedro sula to aguas calientes: 288 km = 179 mi
aguas calientes to rio hondo: 99 km = 63 mi
rio hondo to tapachula: 433 km = 269 mi
tapachula to arriaga: 246 km = 153 mi
arriaga to oaxaca: 431 km = 268 mi
oaxaca to mexico city: 460 km = 286 mi
mexico city to hermosillo: 1919 km = 1192 mi
hermosillo to tijuana: 875 km = 544 mi

san pedro sula to tijuana: 4751 km = 2952 mi

san pedro sula to arriaga: 1066 km = 662 mi

arriaga to tijuana: 3685 km = 2290 mi

arriaga to current location (san pedro tapanatepec): 45 km = 28 mi

distance from san pedro sula to current location:

179 mi + 63 mi + 269 mi + 153 mi + 28 mi = 692 mi

fraction covered = 692 mi / 2952 mi = 0.23

time to current location:

oct 28 - oct 12 = 16 days

rate of travel to current location:

692 mi / 16 days = ~43 mi / day

from current location to tijuana

at actual rate of travel (~43 mi/day):

2262 mi / 43 mi/day = ~53 days (7.6 weeks)


19 posted on 10/28/2018 3:11:29 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Kaslin

Democratic party heros. You don’t think so explain sanctuary city actions. Sanctuary for all criminals.


20 posted on 10/28/2018 3:21:18 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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