Posted on 10/23/2018 5:29:51 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
RUSH: Here is Mike in Youngstown, Ohio. Getting a call in here the first hour. Welcome, sir. How are you?
CALLER: Good. Good, Rush. And I hope you and your family's all doing good. Listen. I think this has all the makings of a bad setup for Trump because of the optics. I don't care if he militarizes the border, if they bum-rush the border like they did on the southern side of Mexico where they tried to stop 'em; what's our military supposed to do? Break out batons or water hoses or tear gas? That's just gonna look so bad that Trump is gonna take the brunt of it. What he needs to do is call the House and the Senate back into emergency session and do a national address. And put everybody's butt on the line. Not just try a tad deal with this himself.
RUSH: So bring 'em back in for a special session to do what? Pass legislation specifically saying that this mob of 7,000 can't come in?
CALLER: Something of that sort. I mean --
RUSH: You think Trump needs to share the burden of providing the obstacle that if Trump sends the military down and they start cracking heads and it looks bad for Trump?
CALLER: Exactly.
RUSH: So you think that's what the actual intention here is, the people who have planned the thing?
CALLER: Exactly. And that's where you can't try to deal with this on his own. He needs to put everybody else's butt on the line, get 'em on tape, on film, or whatever, what should we do. What would you like to do if they come across --
RUSH: I actually like that in a way, I like making Schumer and Pelosi stand up for letting these people in. Anyway, it's a good point. It's a... It's a... I don’t wanna say dangerous situation, but it is in whole lot of different ways.
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RUSH: So still lots to get to as the program unfolds before your very eyes and ears. Back to the caravan story 'cause we're not quite through with this. The thing that argues, again, for this being a Democrat Party operation or an operation intended to benefit the Democrat Party...
"AP Changes Headline After Liberals Complain About Describing Illegal Caravan as 'Army Of Migrants.'" That is the original AP story on this that enraged a bunch of leftists. "The Associated Press on Sunday changed a headline after a backlash from liberals furious at the AP for describing a caravan of illegal immigrants heading towards the United States as an 'army of migrants.' 'A ragged, growing army of migrants resumes march toward U.S.,' read the original headline on the AP story." [snip] -------------------------------
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RUSH: Wilton, Wilton in Macon, Georgia. Great to have you with us on the EIB Network. Hi.
CALLER: Thanks. The reason why I called, I spent all of the years in the military. I retired from the Marines, and although we are very good at a lot of things, we are not good at basically civilian type nonlethal warfare. We've gotten much better at it since Afghanistan and Iraq started, but that is one thing throughout the years we've not been good at. So this situation, and look, I'm 100% for putting the military on the border, but this one is perilous, and we have to be careful.
RUSH: Well, when you say the military's not prepared for an invasion, you're talking about... This is not a military invasion. You're talking about a human wave invasion of people that largely are gonna be thought of as starving, thirsty, poverty stricken, this kind of thing, simply demanding a better life. (impression) “Oh, my God. Let us in please!” The military is not used to standing up to people like that, certainly not inflicting harm on them. Is that what you're saying?
CALLER: Yeah. I think the difference is, you know, when it comes to lethality, we are very good at that. When it comes to less lethal, that's just not something we do that well. We have individual units that are very good at it, but that wouldn't be enough -----
RUSH: What about just the presence, here's U.S. military standing at the border, "You will not cross," okay? What happens then if they do? And --
CALLER: Therein lies the problem. That's the perilous part of the problem.
RUSH: Yeah, but you don't use bullets. You don't use bullets. What are the dummies called? I forget. You use some accuse force but not lethal.
CALLER: We have variety of different things to use, but, you know, all it takes is one person going down and squealing like a pig and then it's over, you know, we just have to fold up. I don't see anything good coming out of this, but the presence would be tremendous.
RUSH: But the presence would be... Okay. So there's... You think the military showing up is... Let me just put words in your mouth and you tell me if I'm right or wrong in interpreting you. You think the military showing up is a lose-lose Proposition?
CALLER: No, I think initially it's a great idea, but we have to be prepared for the next step.
RUSH: Well, but you say we can't take the next step because the next step is not it can't here as good at, they're not used to it. Don't know how to do it.
CALLER: Now that's the peril. By all means we have to be prepared politically and militarily.
RUSH: Well, then what is it? What's the preparation?
CALLER: We have to be prepared to use deadly force, I think.
RUSH: Okay. Well, let me give you a scenario, then.
CALLER: Okay.
RUSH: And I’m just doing this in interest of time. It may sound insensitive and I don't mean that. They hold the line, they hold the line, provide a visual presence, a visual obstruction. They send the signal, "Not welcome. Do not cross." There will be constant warnings, but somebody does and they have to shoot one or two.
CALLER: We have to shoot one... And I’ll tell ya, I bet you’d see lot of people would fall in line, probably wouldn’t push the issue anymore. I'm talking about members of the immigrants, the illegal aliens, but we'd have to be prepared to take that one or two. It's terrible, but that's what it takes --
RUSH: You don't think if one or two got hit that it would storm... Cause the mob to enrage, storm the military, just and essentially storm the bullets, storm the guns? You think they would ?cease and desist.
CALLER: I think they would cease and desist. I tell you, a lot of times tough guys have a tendency to fold up when they're met with equal strength or more. We just have to --
RUSH: But even if there is a casualty or two, the Drive-Bys have their story: Trump, military fires on harmless unharmed, hopeless people.
CALLER: And there's the peril.
RUSH: Yeah.
RUSH: Okay. So the alternative is to let 'em in.
CALLER: No. No. Have to hold the line. Like I said, somebody's... What is it the Democrats are always saying? "Somebody's gotta take one for the team, be willing to lay their lives down." Well let's see. It's unfortunate, but this is what they're taking on by taking on this caravan.
RUSH: Okay. Right. So the responsibility for what happens to them has to be on them. You think the media is gonna allow that? This is... Look, I can't start another thought 'cause I couldn't finish it.
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****The military should handle it like an emergency deployment of a Division overseas - a big logistics exercise for USTRANSCOM.****
1. Declare martial law along the border area effected, to allow immediate deportation without hearing.
2. Put enough personnel on the ground to zip tie infiltrators, tag them with an identifier number, and load them on buses.
3. Run a stream of buses from the border to the nearest airbase, and capture their identification information. Load them onto planes.
4. Run a flow of aircraft from there to Soto Cano Airbase (Palmerola) in Honduras. Give each detainee one MRE and some water. Send an MP Battalion down there to handle receiving the planes.
5. Run busloads outside the gate, disembark the detainees, and remove their zip ties. Tell them Adios Amigos. Mexicans too.
People, who do not favor illegal immigration, can always find reasons to roll over to illegal immigration, and that is why we all end up with the same results we would have with democrats in charge.
Take a valium .............. and a back seat.
We have a nation to protect
Oh yeah, caller? Tough shit.
Me take a valium?
You need some reading comprehension classes.
Why not put all of them in the hold of a container ship and save the jet fuel.
A well thought out call and a solid idea. The Ds most likely would put on a Kavanaugh-like s&it show & DJT would get to address the nation in prime-time.
Rush screens his callers = Rush is nervous, me I don’t care put the troops on the border now!
I have to agree with the caller. All it will take is one “money shot” photo of a soldier pointing a rifle at a mom and baby (who, no doubt, will be the front of the line) to fill Dems with glee. This must be avoided.
Of course, even if this doesn’t happen, it will be photoshopped anyway...so why worry about it.
BackATcha’ .... I responded to the title, mr grammar cop.
I’m worried about the otpics too.
I prefer aimpoint to EOTech, but Trijicon is pretty good
I think we should announce that we are closing the border when the invasion gets to within 100 miles of the border. No one at that point crosses in or out. Have the military enforcing the border closing. Announce it now so that American tourists are aware of the risk they are taking.
IMHO it’t time for those 50 Million Firearms Americans have to be put to good use in the Defense of our Country.
Call up the Citizen Militia, Mr. President. There will be 5 million Americans on their way in 24 hours. The only order needed issued is one to stop all foreign invaders not legally crossing at government checkpoints at all cost.
No money, no skanky caravan schemes.
Optics? How about the optics of thousands invading our country with entitlement.
Thank you for this reasoned answer.
Container ships -after they are bussed from who knows where?
California seems to be the primary destination of this horde, so Tijuana-San Diego and some may head to Ciudad Juarez-El Paso.
And I was responding with disagreement to the argument of the callers to Rush which has nothing to do with me or grammar.
Rush screens his callers = Rush is nervous, me I don’t care put the troops on the border now!
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Don’t let the invaders get near the border. To hell with Mexican sovereignty since they have failed to stop the invasion. There are some good suggestions for stopping the forward movement using the military near our border but in Mexico. There are physical barriers like concertainers and razor wire. These can be quickly deployed by the military to engulf the column. Another suggestion is to use drones to strafe the column with Israeli skunk spray. There is also a device that projects mind-numbing sound. Deploy all of these methods. There likely are more non-lethal methods available. I would not let them set foot on U.S. soil.
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