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To: gattaca

I know what I’m about to say is unpopular here on FR now a days, but that doesn’t make it any less true.

Having worked in the asbestos abatement industry over the years as a project manager I can tell you that finding American workers who will do hot, dirty, dangerous jobs even for good pay is not easy. Most of the jobs I worked paid $25-30/hr. prevailing wage + bennies and you couldn’t find Americans, black or white, to do them. I trained workers and in most classes the Black and white guys dropped out the first time they had to suit and get dirty. It was also sad how many, especially the young white guys, couldn’t pass the drug test. Most company used legal crews that came up from Central America, worked the busy summer season, and went home in the winter. Hardest working people I’ve ever met. We desperately need a guest worker program in this country, because like it or not there are some jobs Americans just won’t do. I wouldn’t think welder would be one, but there are some.


23 posted on 10/19/2018 7:30:08 AM PDT by redangus (actually hit her?)
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To: redangus

there are some jobs Americans just won’t do.
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I have watched enough “Dirty Jobs” to know that is a lie.
I have also worked enough dirty jobs myself to know that is not true as well.


36 posted on 10/19/2018 7:35:38 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: redangus

I hear you. But apparently the prevailing wage isn’t high enough.

What if you paid $1000 per hour? Could you get the workers then? Of course you could.

But you don’t have to go that high. Start your offers at $32/hr and see who you get. You’ll find your floor. And it will be the REAL value of that employee.

Yes your service will cost more. Slavery keeps prices low.


42 posted on 10/19/2018 7:39:23 AM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: redangus

I hear you....Orchards have similar issues...and there are SOME guest worker programs, but not enough.


88 posted on 10/19/2018 8:45:58 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: redangus
I can tell you that finding American workers who will do hot, dirty, dangerous jobs even for good pay is not easy.

I'm calling USDA Grade A BULLSHIT on that.

I've been in construction for forty years and have owned my own business for over half that time. In the days before illegals inundated my industry, I could get Americans to do the toughest, dirtiest work, because I could pay them well, as we could still get a fair price for our finished goods and labor.

Perhaps the Americans who quit on you were boys, and not men with families to feed.

Today, our AMERICAN employees have to hustle twice as hard to make the same weekly pay they did fifteen years ago. Same thing has happened to my profits. Illegals have unfairly stolen millions of dollars off my family's table in the last two decades.

112 posted on 10/19/2018 11:17:02 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: redangus

I’ve always thought those jobs should pay way more than easier/cleaner jobs.

I was a welder/fabricator for 25 years. I also serviced electric signs in FL during those years and have spent time inside signs when it was 98 degrees outside and 120+ inside.

I also spray painted at a company for close to a year and hated that job. Bunch of unorganized rude people running the place and all they cared about was profit.(and not becoming union)

There were trailer manufacturers nearby and from what I heard, they were all sweat shops and hard to work at. No proper ventilation and they push, push, push you. Sounds like that’s what this company in TX is like. How much money would you need to have someone cussing you out and calling you an idiot all day? All while you breath fumes that will kill you in 20 years.

A lot of Southern companies have a deep fear of the employees “organizing” and so they play lots of head games and make everyone miserable. They do that to make sure they have dumb, desperate people working their.

btw, why didn’t you have fresh air supplied suits? They keep you nice and cool. Did the suits cost too much?


113 posted on 10/19/2018 12:51:00 PM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: redangus
We desperately need a guest worker program in this country...

Guess what!!!...there is already some in place...but you'll probably find it unpopular whilst straining at gnats.

Guestworker Programs U.S. Department of Labor

120 posted on 10/19/2018 10:20:29 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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