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Harvard: Race can only help, never harm, applicants’ chances
Associated Press ^ | October 15, 2018 | COLLIN BINKLEY

Posted on 10/17/2018 10:25:07 AM PDT by reaganaut1

BOSTON (AP) — Harvard University intentionally uses a vague “personal rating” to reject Asian-American applicants in favor of students from other racial backgrounds, according to lawyers on one side of a trial that began Monday and carries weighty implications for dozens of other U.S. colleges.

Harvard’s legal team denied any discrimination in its opening statement at Boston’s federal courthouse, saying race is just one factor that’s considered and can only help a student’s chances of getting admitted. In its hour-long opening, lawyers for Students for Fair Admissions accused Harvard of intentionally discriminating against Asian-Americans through a personal rating score that measures character traits such as “courage” and “likeability.”

The case drew dozens of spectators who packed into the courtroom and two overflow rooms Monday, some wearing blue shirts that read “Defend Diversity” in support of Harvard. A day earlier, backers from both sides hosted dueling rallies in the Boston area.

The trial began nearly four years after Harvard was sued by Students for Fair Admissions, a nonprofit based in Arlington, Virginia, that believes schools should not consider race when selecting students. Since then, Harvard and other elite colleges have faced mounting scrutiny over the way they factor race into admission decisions, a topic that has drawn renewed interest among federal authorities.

The suit says Asian-American applicants bring stronger academic records than any other race, yet they are admitted at the lowest rate. The group says that’s because Harvard consistently gives them lower scores on the personal rating, which, according to a document revealed by the group Monday, is only loosely defined in Harvard policies.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: collegeadmissions; harvard; racialpreferences
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To: reaganaut1
...race is just one factor that’s considered and can only help a student’s chances of getting admitted.

Even if your race is "white"?

21 posted on 10/17/2018 10:41:54 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: reaganaut1

pre-WWII the Ivies discriminated strongly against Jewish applicants by saying they favored certain “character” traits which just happened to be found much more among WASPy prep school applicants. They wanted to be sure to keep down the numbers of those unwelcome nerdy Jewish kids, which is quite analogous to what they have now been doing to Asian-American kids for generations: pretending that highly qualified applicants are “too academic” and not “well rounded” enough for the Ivy League.... gee, maybe they should take more of those bright promising Asian-American kids and help them to further their educations....


22 posted on 10/17/2018 10:42:43 AM PDT by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: reaganaut1

A lie. They use race to determine who is admitted. The only reason why they admit Whites is for THEIR MONEY! Somebody has to pay the tuition for those specially-privileged individuals who don’t pay tuition.


23 posted on 10/17/2018 10:44:44 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Patriarchal binary all original-equipment breeder and White-privileged crusader.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Back in the early 90s I told this fact to a Sociology Professor (hey, I needed an easy credit) and he looked at me like I was nuts.


24 posted on 10/17/2018 10:45:23 AM PDT by CaptainK ("no collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker")
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To: ClearCase_guy

I was going to say the exact same thing


25 posted on 10/17/2018 10:47:27 AM PDT by RainMan (rainman)
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To: ladyjane

The minority students also flock very disproportionately to easier subjects such as “Afro-American Studies” etc. and avoid disproportionately the tough subjects such as STEM etc.

When Cornel West was teaching at Harvard one of the controversies was that then-President Larry Summers thought that giving “easy As” was not worthy of the rank of a “University Professor” (Cornel West had been one of only 20 or so out of 1,000 profs given that highest designation with the best salary and benefits). West was so outraged at liberal Summers urging him to raise his academic standards that West angrily departed...... for Princeton, where he was recruited and welcomed with open arms by a more servile Leftard administration.


26 posted on 10/17/2018 10:47:49 AM PDT by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: Jeff Chandler

They better ban the teaching of game theory immediately—before us dumb people figure it out...


27 posted on 10/17/2018 10:50:28 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Apparently white people got no game or race.”

I’m doubling down on different species. Neaderthal after all is in my DNA.

If the Wahoo Witch can claim her non-existent ancestors, so can I.


28 posted on 10/17/2018 10:50:36 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: reaganaut1

...but only if your race isn’t white or Asian.


29 posted on 10/17/2018 10:51:08 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: reaganaut1

In a closed system like admissions, anything that helps one person’s admission hurts another’s.


30 posted on 10/17/2018 10:57:21 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: reaganaut1
Do they think we are idiots?

Of course they do. They're at Harvard and we're not. ;-)

31 posted on 10/17/2018 11:01:40 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: reaganaut1

Harvard is pro-racism. Known for a long time by some. Known by all now.


32 posted on 10/17/2018 11:02:07 AM PDT by Boomer (Better Dead Than Dem)
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To: reaganaut1

Admissions is a zero sum game.

If you give one candidate an advantage, you harm the other candidates.


33 posted on 10/17/2018 11:08:04 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: OpusatFR

Don’t forget your african ancestor gra’maw Lucy.


34 posted on 10/17/2018 11:21:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: reaganaut1

Their living in Lake Wobegon where everyone is above average.


35 posted on 10/17/2018 11:35:35 AM PDT by The Public Eye
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To: reaganaut1

Their claim is mathematically illiterate: In a closed competition, to help Paul necessarily robs Peter.


36 posted on 10/17/2018 11:45:15 AM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: reaganaut1
If there are only a set number of seats then if one applicant benefits because of race then another will be harmed.
37 posted on 10/17/2018 11:46:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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To: reaganaut1

Harvard knows it would be heavily Asian and white without this discrimination. What they ignore is it would also be an incentive to do well in high school for students who really wanted an elite name on their college diploma.


38 posted on 10/17/2018 12:04:40 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: ladyjane

>>At Harvard they struggle

No, they don’t. That’s a myth. Grade inflation at Harvard and elsewhere is so pervasive that almost everyone graduates with honors. Getting HIGH honors at these schools is very tough, but not passing.


39 posted on 10/17/2018 12:07:33 PM PDT by 1L
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To: reaganaut1

Does this study include fake Indians?


40 posted on 10/17/2018 12:21:09 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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