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Georgia Dem: 'You Shouldn't Have to Work More Than One Job Full-Time to Make a Living' [Abrams]
Cybercast News Service ^ | October 15, 2018 | 6:05 AM EDT | Susan Jones

Posted on 10/15/2018 5:31:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Stacey Abrams, the Democrat hoping to make history as the first black governor of Georgia, was asked by CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday if she believes the “Trump economy” has been good for Georgia.

Abrams credited President Barack Obama, not Trump:

I would say that the Obama economy and that Nathan Deal, as governor, have both done a very good job of shepherding our society. But the problem we have is that, while our unemployment rate has fallen, we still are a low-wage state, where you have a lot of folks who are working two or three of those jobs. And I’m running for governor because you shouldn’t have to work more than one job full-time to make a living. You shouldn’t have to fight to get access to health care. We shouldn’t have rural hospitals shutting down because of our refusal to expand Medicaid. I’m running for governor because I want to be the governor for everyone, not just those who are succeeding in our current economy, but for everyone who needs good education, good jobs, and access to health care.
Host Jake Tapper noted that Georgia has not elected a Democrat governor in two decades, and he also told Abrams that she seems to be “more progressive than the average Georgian.” He asked Abrams why she’s a good fit for governor:

“Because what I’m talking about is progress for all of us,” Abrams said. “Making certain that your family income and your zip code doesn’t determine your education shouldn’t just be a progressive value. It’s a smart value.” …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 2018midterms; abrams; electionfraud; ga2018; obamacare; radicalleft; socialists; voterfraud
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To: Olog-hai

She sort of has an interesting point to debate. But I’d have to have some terms defined. “Work,” for example. Forty actual hours of on-time good performance? “Living,” food, shelter, clothing, and bus fare to get to work? Somehow I have a feeling that we would differ on those points. I suspect there’s big screen TVs and Obama phones in her definition of “living.”

But the big one, and the first premise we would have to define is, what do we mean by “shouldn’t have to”? The way that is stated implies that someone or some thing is at fault. But I bet we’d disagree on that, too. If the reason you can only get a menial, low-paying job is the fact that you didn’t study in the free grade schools and high schools you attended, whose fault is that? If it’s because your work history shows you don’t get to work on time because you are hung over or doped up, whose fault is that?

Or in a more basic case, if you are making a basic living — food, shelter, etc, — for your family, but you desire material things like a big screen TV, latest I-phone, car, isn’t it your fault more than society’s? Somehow I bet she and I would disagree on all those things.


41 posted on 10/15/2018 6:37:39 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Fresh Wind

No - that was a double whammy. Obama thought himself clever because the dems were afraid that if they forced health insurance on full time employees that employers would just hire only part time workers. So they changed the definition of full time to 30 hours.

So the employers cut everybody back to under 30 hours.
So then as unemployment remained high under Obama the Dems decided they wanted to change the meaning of things again and declare a full day work week as 4 days. This would cause businesses that were open 7 days a week to take on more employees, thus solving unemployment!

Yeah, that didn’t take either.


42 posted on 10/15/2018 6:40:37 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Olog-hai
while our unemployment rate has fallen, we still are a low-wage state, where you have a lot of folks who are working two or three of those jobs.

Capitalism progressively raises average REAL wage rates. In the context of free and rational economic environment, an increase in the ratio of aggregate productive expenditure over aggregate sales revenues, which is an increase in the economic degree capitalism, first establishes full employment. Then, it increases aggregate demand for labor, which increases average money wage rates. It also increases production and supply, which leads to lower average prices. The combination of higher money wage rates and lower prices leads to higher real wage rates, which leads to higher standard of living for the average worker. What is not needed is leftardism, which is the opposite of the above.

43 posted on 10/15/2018 6:43:26 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: simpson96
The problem is, her voting base is low-info, and what she’s selling sounds good to them.

Partially correct. In addition her voting base also consists of:

  1. Blacks - Ga is 30% black so there is approximately 30% of the vote right there. The vast majority of blacks vote skin color ignoring everything else
  2. Welfare parasites. - people of all races and immigration statuses who vote for a living rather than work for a living. She's promising them more of other peoples' money and they cant wait to get their lazy hands on it
  3. White ITP (inside the perimeter) liberals who are too stupid to realize just what it is they're voting for and far too arrogant to consider examining the facts - these are not so much low information as wrong information voters and exhibit a militant ignorance that is nearly impossible to overcome
  4. The media - the Atlanta media is as hard left as any in NYC.
  5. Liberals from place like NY and NJ who moved to GA to escape the sh!tholes they created by voting for liberals in their previous state. Funny how liberals never learn. They foul their nests by voting Democrat, and the when the results of what they've done make their location unlivable they move on to ruin another place.
So she may actually have a chance to be elected. The TV advertising I see is about 5:1 Abrams vs Kemp. This lying sack of sh!t is getting tens of millions of dollars from CA and NY and looks to be seriously outspending the Republican. She will win in Atlanta for sure.
44 posted on 10/15/2018 6:43:46 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: eastexsteve

I know, so does Fastenal.

I just heard of it and don’t know much more. Does Depot get it to you within an hour?


45 posted on 10/15/2018 6:50:25 AM PDT by cyclotic ( Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: mjp
Capitalism progressively raises average REAL wage rates.

Not the way it's been practiced in the USA for the last 30 years. Unbridled legal immigration, pushed by Republican globalist economic disciples, created this person.

46 posted on 10/15/2018 6:52:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Olog-hai

Someone should tell these Democrats that if the illegal invasion was stopped AND reversed (all illegals out), most of what they complain about would fix itself in a matter of a few years or maybe less.

Also, if the union bosses didn’t sell out the rank-and-file, there would be no illegal problem, for they would see to it they are kept out to keep the prevailing wage much higher.

It’s the old 80/20 rule: 80% of the problem is caused by 20% of the population. 325 million X .20 = 65 million, roughly the number of illegals here today.


47 posted on 10/15/2018 6:59:28 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Olog-hai

That’s right. Every burger flipper should be paid the same as brain surgeons.

obligatory /s


48 posted on 10/15/2018 7:27:06 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Olog-hai

49 posted on 10/15/2018 7:28:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I’m still waiting for my free obama phone, free rent and a purple unicorn.


50 posted on 10/15/2018 7:28:36 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Olog-hai

It should take one job for most people. But that would would require that the Left was kept in check and government interference in the economy was kept at a minimum. Those are tall orders.


51 posted on 10/15/2018 7:46:26 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Olog-hai

And yet she supports importing huge numbers of (illegal) immigrants the drive down working wages.


52 posted on 10/15/2018 7:48:10 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: bgill

Trillions of dollars spent an’ you didn’ get any Obamastash?

Call your congressman and complain.


53 posted on 10/15/2018 7:50:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: central_va
Unbridled legal immigration, pushed by Republican globalist economic disciples, created this person.

Legal immigration is a mixed bag. It has pros and cons. It increases the supply of labor, which decreases average money wage rates, but it expands the division of labor which increases productivity of labor, which increases average real wage rates.

54 posted on 10/15/2018 7:57:03 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: from occupied ga
" Georgians prepare to kiss your rights and your money goodbye."

Or kiss Georgia goodbye.

55 posted on 10/15/2018 8:02:40 AM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy is not what it used to be.)
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To: mjp
Legal immigration is a mixed bag.

To the US worker( or any worker in any country for that matter) there is no benefit to immigration. It is burden to the taxpayer and the wage earner alike. Most immigrants use welfare/social services and when/if they finally do get citizenship are way more Likely to vote Democrat. It is lose - lose - lose..

56 posted on 10/15/2018 8:05:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Olog-hai

People should also have to create their own jobs, where they can dictate their own take-home pay or salaries.


57 posted on 10/15/2018 8:23:14 AM PDT by adorno
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To: bgill
I’m still waiting for my free obama phone, free rent and a purple unicorn.

Just wait till the Article V Convention...


58 posted on 10/15/2018 8:52:25 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: central_va

Some immigrants start businesses which employ large number of people.

Typically though they aren’t found in grass huts in Somalia.


59 posted on 10/15/2018 8:53:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Some immigrants, who are already wealthy or get government grants/loans start businesses which employ large number of people.

Fixed it.

60 posted on 10/15/2018 9:05:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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