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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Using this logic, if Osama had written an article for NYT you would have been against him being taken out. Good to know.”

You call this ‘logic’? Is it your contention that Kashoggi had committed overt acts of terrorism? All you have is that he liked terrorists and wrote nice things about them. In which case, using your ‘logic,’ we should be taking out half the editorial staff of the NYT, WaPo, and the Village Voice. Not that I like them, but people are allowed to express their dumbassed opinion under the Constitution.

“Then an investigation, including forensic exam of this alleged recording of his alleged murder, is in order.

Nope.

Not our monkey.”

Now this is scary. What America’s policy should be towards KSA is indeed America’s monkey. And how KSA treats dissidents is a necessary part of deciding America’s policy.

But that’s not what’s scary. What’s scary is that you are opposed to investigating. You remind me of those hollyweirdos who were writing how they believed Balsy-Fraud’s testimony before she even testified.

If there is one defining difference between the modern-day Right and Left, it’s narrative. The Left believes in narrative. They have a paradigm that determines their agenda, and their agenda determines what facts they believe in advance of, and if need be despite, any and all evidence.

The Right considers the evidence, and then decides what to believe. You don’t even want to examine the evidence. You dismiss the duty to investigate out of hand in advance of any investigation, saying ‘not our monkey’. In fact, you even assume that the only possible reaction to a putative investigation that incriminates KSA is war. In other words, you have your paradigm, your agenda, and therefore your narrative.

I’m for investigating, finding out what happened, and from that point deciding what action to take, which almost certainly would not be war. I am not convinced that this was KSA’s doing, considering the source was an Al Qaeda operative. Here we have a recording. It could be a forgery, but even then a forensic analysis would get us closer to finding out who really did it. But since you’re apparently the head of the CIA, and I’m a mere American ex-pat with an opinion, you decide according to the dictates of your narrative. Pay me no mind.


124 posted on 10/16/2018 10:25:59 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Is it your contention that Kashoggi had committed overt acts of terrorism?

Just supported and encouraged it.

Which is really all Osama did as well.

In which case, using your ‘logic,’ we should be taking out half the editorial staff of the NYT, WaPo, and the Village Voice.

They actually are Americans. To our shame.

And we don't go after most Americans who promote the violent overthrow of our government. Other countries have other rules.

What’s scary is that you are opposed to investigating.

What is scary is that you want to waste American time and resources on this.

Are we going to investigate every possible murder every where on planet earth?

You dismiss the duty to investigate out of hand in advance of any investigation, saying ‘not our monkey’.

There is no duty to investigate. You are making things up out of whole cloth.

This is not only not our monkey, it it not our circus either.

If he had been an American citizen, it would have been our monkey and we would have had a duty. If it had happened on US soil it would have been our circus.

None of these are the case.

And then you descend into the usual hysteria.

Please apply logic and reason to this. I know you can. I have seen you do it.

125 posted on 10/16/2018 10:50:43 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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