Just supported and encouraged it.
Which is really all Osama did as well.
In which case, using your ‘logic,’ we should be taking out half the editorial staff of the NYT, WaPo, and the Village Voice.
They actually are Americans. To our shame.
And we don't go after most Americans who promote the violent overthrow of our government. Other countries have other rules.
What’s scary is that you are opposed to investigating.
What is scary is that you want to waste American time and resources on this.
Are we going to investigate every possible murder every where on planet earth?
You dismiss the duty to investigate out of hand in advance of any investigation, saying ‘not our monkey’.
There is no duty to investigate. You are making things up out of whole cloth.
This is not only not our monkey, it it not our circus either.
If he had been an American citizen, it would have been our monkey and we would have had a duty. If it had happened on US soil it would have been our circus.
None of these are the case.
And then you descend into the usual hysteria.
Please apply logic and reason to this. I know you can. I have seen you do it.
Agreed. I do not understand why we Americans are supposed to give a damn about this to the point of expending national resources on the event. I wonder if we sent the FBI to investigate every Russian reporter Putin whacked?
“Is it your contention that Kashoggi had committed overt acts of terrorism?
Just supported and encouraged it.
Which is really all Osama did as well.”
You really think all Osama did was say “attaboy” when an American target was hit! He financed it, set up an organization and helped plan it. He did everything except fly the planes into the towers. Kashoggi might have said an ‘attaboy’ and ‘serves you right,’ but that does not make him a terrorist, just another leftard idiot. WaPo hired him, and was responsible for him. If KSA killed him, it was because he was talking trash against the Crown Prince, not because they have a problem with terror cheerleaders. They clearly don’t.
In which case, using your ‘logic,’ we should be taking out half the editorial staff of the NYT, WaPo, and the Village Voice.
They actually are Americans. To our shame.
And we don’t go after most Americans who promote the violent overthrow of our government. Other countries have other rules.
If KSA is serious about modernizing its society, and they want American help, they had better stop offing dissidents who work for American papers.
“What’s scary is that you are opposed to investigating.
What is scary is that you want to waste American time and resources on this.”
It’s not a waste. It’s looking into the conduct of an alleged ally. One that is ostensibly trying to join the 21st Century. Offing a dissident does not fit with that. America has the resources to ‘insure’ preexisting conditions, provide municipal welfare to cities that flaunt federal law, investigate bogus claims against a respect judge, and study global warming. But when it comes to investigating a murder that is relevant to US foreign policy, suddenly you’re all for austerity. US intelligence has the most resources and the best trained investigators on the planet, bar none except maybe England and Israel. Looking into this would be an infinitesimal fraction of the CIA or NSA’s total budget.
“Are we going to investigate every possible murder every where on planet earth?”
Again. American corporate citizen’s employee, murdered possibly for things that he said in the course of his employment.
“You dismiss the duty to investigate out of hand in advance of any investigation, saying ‘not our monkey’.
There is no duty to investigate. You are making things up out of whole cloth.
This is not only not our monkey, it it not our circus either.”
If you can show me a pink slip from the WaPo personnel department dated an hour before he got disappeared, you’d be right. But an employee abroad is entitled to some protection, especially if he’s in the 4th estate, distasteful as that is. At the very least, an investigation.
“If he had been an American citizen, it would have been our monkey and we would have had a duty. If it had happened on US soil it would have been our circus.
None of these are the case.”
So if he has a green card, still not our monkey? What about an H-2 visa? You’re making a nonsense distinction. If he were a citizen, it would have been an act of war, though no war would have occurred. He was in the employ of a US paper, and possibly killed for expressing his opinion by the object of that opinion, and who wants to remodel his society with American help. America’s monkey, albeit on lend-lease.
“And then you descend into the usual hysteria.
Please apply logic and reason to this. I know you can. I have seen you do it. “
Please look in the mirror. This is not logic you are using, it is narrative. That’s why you imagined I was advocating war with the KSA. It fit your narrative, not the facts. The fact that you are unaware of it is a symptom of being caught up in a false paradigm that defines the agenda that writes the narrative.
Investigation in this case is a good thing. Leftard MSM wants to stampede Trump into just f@#ing the arms deal with KSA in order to prove he’s not against the First Amendment, which ‘proof’ they will then studiously ignore and keep pushing. M’man does not stampede, and good on him. But investigate, his administration must, for the aforementioned reasons.