Skip to comments.We need to answer their constant drum beat about preexisting medical conditions.
Posted on 10/13/2018 6:23:53 PM PDT by Bellflower
Everywhere the opposition has ads poured out about how heartless the evil, mean Republicans are. They want to take healthcare away from poor, poor people with preexisting illnesses. All they care about are big corporate insurance companies. They are dirty, and bought and payed for by them.
If you are a good and decent person with any kind of heart at all you will vote for the good and decent Democrat, who cares about people and doesn't want to kill them.
Besides, really frightening, is the possibility that you or someone you care about could be, or eventually become one of those with a preexisting health condition. If so, you can be sure those evil Republicans will heartlessly leave you and your love one to die, too.
This pops up everywhere, but I haven't heard any Republican rebuttals. Maybe they are out there, but I haven't run into them. This seems to be the opposition's main ammunition. They have next to nothing but this tear jerker. They are trying to cause people to feel that if they are decent human beings they must vote for the lovely, compassionate Democrats, who care about people over big corporate insurance companies.
OK, isn't it obvious that since this is their constant drumbeat, their main ammo against us, that we need to address this, and address it fast, completely and convincingly? We need to target people's hearts, as well as their minds. We need to fight fire with fire.
What say all of you?
Well I am not sure that conservatives do have an adequate response for chronic and preexisting conditions.
When I hear Limbaugh riff on healthcare, I cringe.
This is a man who knows nothing about how healthcare works and who doesn’t understand the absolutely wipe-out, both financial and emotional, that happens to people with illness.
what if I have a preexisting condition on my driving record...
Will you sell me auto insurance after I get into a wreck ???
Gee you Democrats are heartless !!!
Trump has made it a point to say at every stump speech that the Republican plan will cover pre existing conditions.
I completely agree, actually.
Not with you. With the criticism.
The GOP is way, way wrong if they do ANYTHING to cut coverage for pre-existing conditions.
This is also important for FReepers...
We are on average, higher in age than some. I know some have excellent coverage, but there are some who do not.
Leave it alone.
Just my view.
Trump offers coverage for existing illnesses. He just also offers policies without that coverage for healthy people.
We should have pre-existing conditions for car insurance too. Never pay for insurance, and if you total your car sign up with Geico and say “btw, you have to replace my car after you take my first month’s premium”
How about selling me home insurance ???
I live in Pensacola and the hurricane tore up my house ...
What ??? But I have a preexisting condition !!!
I want a new house !!! I have a right to new house care or something !!!
We need to figure out where we stand and defend ourselves. Burying our heads in the sand doesn’t work.
First of all Medicare covers the elderly, and secondly the GOP is only offering healthy people the option of less expensive policies. It’s a phoney issue. Trump always says he wants preexisting conditions covered.
The point of having health insurance is to have $$$ available when you get sick and are facing medical bills.
But the concept of insurance that covers a pre-existing condition just translates into someone else pay for my pre-existing condition. It’s not even really “insurance” per se.
It seems to me that insurance that would cover pre-existing issues would be astronomically high by default !
If you’ve heard the full thing, Rush also says it will be much much cheaper to have a special fund to help people with pre existing conditions than to force healthcare companies to sign up such people. Pre existing conditions need to be addressed, he just doesn’t think forcing insurance companies is the answer.
I am not defending their position. I am merely pointing out the obvious. This is what they are running with. Un
No it is not a phony issue.
Stay away from this, GOP.
Far, far away.
If we simply enforced our over 100 yr old, long standing ANTI TRUST LAWS, the Health care delivery system in this country would be affordable for most without Insurance. If you actually read our Anti Trust Laws you will see it is a description of our current Medical System.
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Oh I’ll answer them on this issue all right. But they don’t want to hear it. They don’t want to hear the truth: if some medical coverage plan takes people with pre-existing conditions, it’s not insurance. It’s some kind of a socialist medical program, but it’s not insurance. Insurance is based on a gamble that people will not get sick.
Well put, and exactly equivalent.
Never use the enemy’s language, words, false premises, or otherwise fake rants. Never talk in the enemy’s terms.
Respond assertively and emotionally.
Republicans care about healthcare and pre-existing ailments for Americans.
Democrats hurt children’s health.
Democrats want grandma to suffer.
Its not insurance. Its (inadequate) prepayment for care.
Thats step #1 in figuring this all out.
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