[DiogenesLamp]

Oh shut up. Christ sake you moron, time and again you're shown to be completely ignorant of Civil War history by a man who obviously knows the subject better than the both of us and yet it's with me you choose to argue with.

You argue about as well as he does. All emotion, little real fact. Much interpretation to get the result you want.

I have not been shown to be ignorant on this subject. I've shown that I'm not going to be steered by public opinion and opprobrium. I will call things as I objectively see them, and not go along with the "group think" simply because it's popular with the majority.

The war fleet caused the war. I see this as an objective fact, and most of Lincoln's cabinet as well as Major Anderson says so as well.

[jmacusa]

No. The South caused the war by violently seceding from the Union.

[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "I have not been shown to be ignorant on this subject."

By your own repeated statements, you've shown that you refuse to consider any facts which contradict your own historical fantasies.

Facts such as those posted in #410 above