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To: DiogenesLamp; jmacusa; x
quoting BJK post #315: "...according to Fire Eaters' 'Reasons for Secession' documents which make clear that protecting slavery's future against 'Black Republicans' was their number one concern."

DiogenesLamp: "Propaganda and nothing more.
Slavery would have been perfectly safe in the Union, just as it was in the Union slaves states during the war."

First note here DiogenesLamp's word "propaganda" refers to Fire Eaters' "Reasons for Secession" documents -- so you declare Confederate official documents "propaganda" and then presume to tell us what they really meant??

Well, here's the real truth: in 1860 Fire Eaters could not have gotten even 10% of Deep South voters to accept secession on any basis other than protecting slavery.
All this other nonsense you keep posting about -- tariffs and "oppressive" Washington, or "Northeastern power brokers" or "money flow from Europe", etc., etc., all of that meant nothing to average Southern voters.
But protecting slavery did mean something important in the Deep South, so that's what Fire Eaters used.

And regardless of DiogenesLamp's opinions today, there's no evidence Fire Eaters in 1860 didn't believe their own "propaganda", or that they thought slavery less important than any other issue.

All of which DiogenesLamp fully understands, but refuses to acknowledge because it contradicts his favorite historical fantasies.

407 posted on 10/15/2018 9:29:52 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK
Slavery would have been perfectly safe in the Union, just as it was in the Union slaves states during the war.
413 posted on 10/15/2018 10:37:22 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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