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Yes, ‘Medicare for all’ would do away with private healthcare plans
Washington Examiner ^ | 10/12/2018 | by Philip Klein , Kimberly Leonard, & Robert King

Posted on 10/12/2018 8:27:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

When President Trump declared in a USA Today op-ed that the Democrats' "Medicare for all" proposal would "outlaw" private health insurance, CNN's Jim Acosta indignantly tweeted that this was "false." But reading the text of the leading proposal by Sen. Bernie Sanders makes clear that Trump's op-ed was correct.

"It is right there in their proposed legislation: Democrats outlaw private health plans that offer the same benefits as the government plan." This is, in fact, 100 percent accurate. The plan would require, in four years time, for individuals to be enrolled in the new government plan at birth. At that point, Section 107 of the plan says, “it shall be unlawful for — (1) a private health insurer to sell health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits provided under this Act; or (2) an employer to provide benefits for an employee, former employee, or the dependents of an employee or former employee that duplicate the benefits provided under this Act."

In effect, this would mean that the roughly 180 million people who depend on private insurance would see their existing plans go away. Though the bill does allow for limited supplemental coverage, because the government plan promises to offer such a wide swath of benefits (including hospitalization, primary and preventive care, prescription drugs, dentistry and vision care), there won’t be much left over for private insurers.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aca; berniecare; healthcare; medicare; singlepayer; socializedmedicine; theenc
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1 posted on 10/12/2018 8:27:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Sanders hits back at Trump in his own USAT op-ed. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., the author of the Medicare for All Act, hit back at Trump’s “lies” on healthcare in his own op-ed in USA Today. Sanders touted the growing popularity of his proposal and noted that studies show overall spending under his plan would be lower than under the current model by shifting all medical spending to the government.

The Sanders bill hasn’t been scored by the Congressional Budget Office, but researchers at George Mason University’s Mercatus Center released a widely circulated study that projected the Medicare for All Act would increase federal spending by $32 trillion. Though Sanders has touted a part of the study saying that overall private and public health spending could be reduced by $2 trillion, that assumes the plan would cut reimbursement hospitals and doctors currently receive from private health insurance by 40 percent, given that Medicare pays lower rates.

This approach will not only receive backlash from insurance and drug companies, which Sanders attacks in his op-ed, but by hospitals -- and would likely lead to significant problems with access. The plan Sanders has put forward goes further than the current Medicare system and than those offered in other countries through the range of medical services it would cover and by doing away with all copays.

2 posted on 10/12/2018 8:29:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats don’t need no stinkin’Constitution!


3 posted on 10/12/2018 8:32:13 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: SeekAndFind

What? In Canada, people can still purchase private coverage if they want.

Only in the land of the free, you won’t be allowed to do it - or keep your current plan if you like it.

That’s what they don’t tell you about BernieCare, among other things.


4 posted on 10/12/2018 8:32:22 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pure Marxist Liberal insanity.


5 posted on 10/12/2018 8:33:29 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SeekAndFind

No thanks. I can’t afford this free stuff.


6 posted on 10/12/2018 8:34:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Medicare for all would accelerate the physician workforce decline.

Quite a few physicians over 50 would retire early and many independent physicians would drop Medicare. Most remaining physicians would become employees. Employed physicians typically see 20% fewer patients than their self-employed colleagues.

Any further legislation “forcing” physicians to accept Medicare would only exacerbate and reduce the workforce.


7 posted on 10/12/2018 8:34:49 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just wait until a debt-bubble burst, meets socialist spending plans and street organizing

Bolivia here we come!


8 posted on 10/12/2018 8:35:30 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind
It is right there in their proposed legislation:

What did Trump do, READ it? /sarc


9 posted on 10/12/2018 8:35:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: goldstategop

Depending on the Party in power, they can use Medicare for all to decide who lives and who dies via approving or not approving life-saving care or any care. Same as Obama’s DeathCare.


10 posted on 10/12/2018 8:35:59 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SeekAndFind

And give us all the same great service we’ve come to expect from The VA~!!


11 posted on 10/12/2018 8:38:51 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: grumpygresh

Taxes would be significantly higher than we have today and Americans aren’t prepared to assume that burden.

The hidden price tag the proponents of BernieCare don’t talk about.


12 posted on 10/12/2018 8:39:10 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

I received this email and just ‘passing it on’.
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President Trump is against their GRAVY TRAIN! That is why so many of the Congress are retiring.

They hope to keep their Retirement as it stands now.

The Plan, Fat Chance?

We can only hope!

T his makes too much sense not to be passed on. But at least we can make our wishes known and hope. I’m with Trump on this one and always will be.

President Trump is asking everyone to forward this email to a minimum of 20 people, and to ask each one of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in the United States will have the message. This is why the idea that should be passed around, regardless of Political Party.

The Trump Rule’s Congressional Reform Act of 2018:

1 – NO TENURE / NO PENSION. A Congressman/Woman, collects a salary while in office and receives No Pay when they’re Out Of Office. No More Perks Go With Them.

2 – Congressman/Woman (Past, Present & Future) participate in Social Security. All Funds in the Congressional Retirement Fund Move To The Social Security System Immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security System and Congress participates with the American People. It may not be used for any other purposes.

3 – Congress must purchase their own Retirement Plan, just as all Americans do.

4 – Congress will No Longer Vote Themselves a Pay Increase. Congressional Pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5 – Congress loses their current Healthcare System and participates in the same Healthcare System as the American People.

6 – Congress must equally abide by all the Laws they impose on the American People.

7 – All contracts with Past and Present Congressman/Woman are Void. The American People did not make this Contract with Congressmen/Women. Congress made all these Contracts For Themselves.

Serving in Congress is an Honor, Not a Career. The Founding Fathers envisioned Citizen Legislators should serve their Terms, then go home and go back to work and not get all kinds of Freebies!

NO WONDER THEY’RE FIGHTING EVERYTHING HE TRIES!

If EACH PERSON CONTACTS A MINIMUM OF TWENTY PEOPLE, THEN IT WILL ONLY TAKE THREE DAYS FOR MOST PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES TO RECEIVE THE MESSAGE. IT’S TIME FOR US TO TAKE ACTION NOW!


13 posted on 10/12/2018 8:50:23 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers)
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To: sodpoodle

I would add to that the provision that “Congress cannot exempt itself from any legislation passed.”


14 posted on 10/12/2018 8:53:27 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: grumpygresh

RE: Quite a few physicians over 50 would retire early and many independent physicians would drop Medicare.

If the socialists had their way — they’d pass a law REQUIRING physicians to accept all Medicare patients under penalty of having their license to practice revoked.

You read it here first if ( God forbid ) it ever passes.


15 posted on 10/12/2018 8:55:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: circlecity

I want congresscritters to impose it on themselves before they impose it on the rest of us.


16 posted on 10/12/2018 8:55:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is always the plan of the Left to cut access. Fewer doctors, fewer hospitals, fewer services, killing the elderly...

Yep, the Left really cares about our citizens.


17 posted on 10/12/2018 8:56:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: DoughtyOne

With all that free stuff comes rationing... along with the higher taxes, of course.


18 posted on 10/12/2018 9:02:13 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Medicare is already bankrupt, this would simply speed up the process.


19 posted on 10/12/2018 9:03:13 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s and interesting part I did not know, and probably many others here don’t as well.

Supposedly Medicare is going broke in eight years. My wife can get insurance for us as part of her retirement plan for about $1100 a month. By the time you buy Part B, C, D, Z whatever for Medicare, it will cost us about $400 and some change a month. Since it’s going broke and we can afford it, we’ll just buy our own.

We also neither have applied for Social Security yet since they will give you 8% per year for every year you wait till 70. As we are both approaching that number, we stated our preparations to file.

Well, surprise, surprise, surprise.

During the time the ‘bent one’ (Clintoon) infested the oval office, he somehow got a rule in place that if you collect Social Security, you must go on Medicare! So here is a program that is going broke, and even if you can and are willing to pay your own way, you’ll have to give up Social Security to have the right to buy your own healthcare.

The obvious intent to all of this is to destroy ANY form of private healthcare. Thank God we did not end up with another member of that family of liberal idiots in the White House!


20 posted on 10/12/2018 9:11:30 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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