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Trauma and Truth: The feminist movement has shifted the definition of rape to include regret
City Journal ^ | October 7, 2018 | Heather MacDonald

Posted on 10/07/2018 2:30:00 PM PDT by Trump_the_Evil_Left

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To: Mrs. Don-o

Feminists are the best evidence that leftists are insane.


21 posted on 10/07/2018 3:49:17 PM PDT by KyCats
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To: metmom

Use all the resources God has given us.

When we allow the situation to simply become one of comparing credibility between the accusers, we afford the Adversary unmerited favor.

There is something much deeper manifest in this testimony.

There are many victims involved, maybe even Chrissie Ford, but the game was played to such an extent, that wriiten documents were sent from the Democrats upon Trumps nominations, within a couple of hours, objecting to the nomination. So much was the objection, that those submitting hit forgot to edit the letters, refering to Judge Kavenaugh as “Mr. XX”.


22 posted on 10/07/2018 3:50:20 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left

I I get drunk and get behind the wheel, I am nevertheless held responsible for the bad decisions I might make.

Women who get drunk should not be able to disavow their bad decisions. Either that or don’t get drunk in the first place.


23 posted on 10/07/2018 3:55:02 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: KyCats

Amen, FReepin Friend!


24 posted on 10/07/2018 3:55:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I ain't denyin' the women are foolish. The Good Lord made 'em to match the men.")
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To: miss marmelstein

So not true.

Women are special protected classes in Europe and many countries are completely feminized in their laws.


25 posted on 10/07/2018 3:59:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,

that is not enough to save any guy from allegations. There are guys that were in newspapers that women saw and recorded as “father” on their babies birth certificates.

You can do all you want to avoide them, it will not necessarily be enough.


26 posted on 10/07/2018 4:01:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: alloysteel

Yes but for Orwell, thoughtcrime could be applied to anyone, not just men only.

Ford was a slutty whore who smeared a guy who didn’t touch her. And women and society are designed to cast her as victim and automatically telling the truth.

It is sick how this country has gone off the rails in so many ways.


27 posted on 10/07/2018 4:04:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left

No 911 call.

No rape kit.

No crime. Sorry gals, if you don’t line it, the Burka awaits.


28 posted on 10/07/2018 4:04:33 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left

awesome post. Everybody who has used the #BelieveWomen hashtag should be forced to read this.

In undergrad a girl nearly shut down a fraternity where I was a “little sis” - by claiming rape at a party where I was present. Claimed upstairs, load music, shut door, etc. It was one of the better fraternities too. We sort of doubted her - but figured “why would she lie?” Huge scandal on campus.

Sometime later that year she completely recanted - turned out she had stepped out on her boyfriend and used this as a way to throw blame on the guy instead.

I do know a lot of women that are real victims - but this huge onslaught of post hookup victims is really pathetic, and you wonder why none of their mothers taught them that the best way to avoid such harm is to avoid being drunk and at least make abstinence a GOAL...


29 posted on 10/07/2018 4:26:21 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: Chode

One nearest and dearest to me was a city cop in a college town for several years. Sometimes girls would come to the police saying they went to a party, got so drunk they passed out (or at least don’t remember anything about the party), and woke up with no underwear. They were crying that they were raped, but didn’t know who, when, exactly where, or even how many. The cops had nothing to investigate.

Now I am not blaming the victim, because in an ideal world, nobody would take advantage of an incapacitated person. However, this is not an ideal world. If one is going to a party with a bunch of strangers, it is best not to get falling down drunk.


30 posted on 10/07/2018 4:33:18 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (..Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you.. Joshua 1:9)
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To: miss marmelstein

Well, they have grooming and gang raping going on in their countries by the Amish.If the women dare report it- it gets buried and ignored because they don’t want the Amish to get mad.


31 posted on 10/07/2018 4:46:15 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: Pining_4_TX

100%


32 posted on 10/07/2018 5:01:16 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left

I would like to add something that is really irking me.
Taking on the label of ‘survivor’.
What the heck!?!

When I hear ‘survivor’, I think of a tragic death defying situation. Like the Titanic or in war. Even a house fire or car wreck where there were fatalities. Or a violent attack where you were left for dead and survived it, sure.

I blame it totally on glorification of ‘victimhood’ and dramatics generation. I am not making light of rape. But taking on such a label is not helpful for someone to overcome anything. And insisting on it being the defining label of your life will certainly psychologically hold you back.


33 posted on 10/07/2018 5:30:44 PM PDT by TianaHighrider
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left

Many females succumb to lust, then regret it, since they do not want to see themselves as sluts. They then blame the male, the partner in promiscuity.

It takes two to tango.


34 posted on 10/07/2018 5:35:27 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left

Regret....so if she doesn’t remember her orgasm it was rape?


35 posted on 10/07/2018 6:41:00 PM PDT by lightman (Obama's legacy in 13 letters: BLM, ISIS, & ANTIFA. New axis of evil.)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left
Interesting article, mostly about the drunken "hook up" culture on college campuses and how many feminists have been trying to grossly distort what happens.

We also have a cognitive disconnect in these cases, as to why they call it "rape", when they willingly participated, then report it later as a rape. How many times have Liberals, both in and out of law enforcement advised women to not resist; just "do what you have to to survive"?

It really makes me wonder how many of these looney women, while tipsy, were just sober enough to remember to do just that, instead of saying, "no!" They didn't necessarily want to have the sex, but did as advised, and gave in, participating wholeheartedly, anyway.

In their sobered up mind, that could well make them honestly feel like they "survived" being raped, when it was no such thing: They were just following the "don't resist" indoctrination of "survive and report", when NO THREAT existed.

36 posted on 10/07/2018 10:33:31 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!�)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left

Read these fantastic comments on a conservative Facebook page & wanted to pass them along. Author is Sean D Sorrentino.

Apparently Orrin Hatch said the following in WSJ (behind a paywall):

“You’ve got to be kidding me. Do the people making this argument really expect a man who until five seconds ago had an unblemished reputation to sit passively while his reputation is viciously and permanently destroyed? While he is accused of the most horrific and obscene acts imaginable? Judge Kavanaugh’s critics seem to be aghast that he is a human being who is unwilling to take slander lying down.”

[WSJ article is titled Brett Kavanaugh’s Righteous Anger]

I’d like to expand on something in there.

“...accused of the most horrific and obscene acts imaginable”

I’m seeing apparently serious people saying “so what if a privileged white man doesn’t get a promotion, he’s still going to be a lifetime justice on the Court of Appeals for DC.”

Apparently in their world being accused of trying to rape someone is simultaneously

1) So awful that he deserves to be Borked out of a Supreme Court seat.

2) No big deal, so he should just get over it and get back to work on the DC Circuit.

[Say what?]

A few years ago I had to explain this to a nice liberal female friend of mine. Rape is a big [bleeping] deal in Conservative land. It is literally “the most horrific and obscene act imaginable.”

I’d rather you thought me a murderer than believed me a rapist. Ordinary people can imagine circumstances where they’d kill someone, and might have some sympathy for me if they thought I murdered someone. Maybe the guy kinda deserved it, and maybe the jury was a bunch of weenies about the whole thing.

There are literally zero circumstances where raping someone is a good idea. There’s no justification for it. Even attempting rape puts you outside the tribe. It makes you a non-person. It makes you fair game for anyone to kill on sight.

“Why’d you shoot that guy 27 times in the face and pelvis?”

“Because he raped my sister and that was all the ammo I brought.”

“Oh, ok.”

That’s how rapists are viewed in Conservative land.

So when the Left starts shooting their mouths off about “Rape Culture,” we get bent out of shape. When they conflate ordinary boorish behavior with rape, we lose our minds. Because branding a man a rapist is literally telling the rest of the world that he needs killing.

Yet they feel totally ok about deploying the “he’s a rapist!” charge with nothing in the way of evidence, and can’t understand why a decent man, who is married to a woman, who has daughters, who coaches a girls basketball team, might find it incredibly upsetting. They painted a target on his back. They told the world that there is no crime he wouldn’t stoop to. They invited the world to kill him. They encouraged him to kill himself.

That’s where this ends. With a 12 gauge mouthwash. Because when you’ve convinced a significant portion of the world that Brett Kavanaugh is a rapist or even an attempted rapist, he has nothing left to live for.

I’ve repeatedly compared this high tech lynching to the real thing. And the usual Leftist whiners have whined about comparing the “privileged white man losing a job opportunity” (near direct quote) to a mob stringing up a black man. I’ll tell you directly, if I have to choose, send me the mob. I have a rifle and I’ll take a few with me if I can. But I’d rather be strung up from a tree than have the nation think I was a rapist. Getting lynched at least means I get to die all at once.


37 posted on 10/07/2018 10:56:21 PM PDT by TropicanaRose
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To: TropicanaRose

Excellent comments, thanks!! Yes, I think the leftists tend to view conservative people so much through biased lenses that they cannot understand how appalling such behavior (or accusations) would be to any *real* conservative.


38 posted on 10/08/2018 2:27:31 AM PDT by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: PapaBear3625
Women who get drunk should not be able to disavow their bad decisions. Either that or don’t get drunk in the first place.

We expect men to act responsibly in matters of sex. Why is it too much to ask of women?

39 posted on 10/08/2018 10:46:24 AM PDT by gogeo (The Repubs may not always deserve to win, but the RATs always deserve to lose.)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/10/uk-heartbroken-mother-found-hanged-after-son-took-his-own-life-following-false-rape-accusation/


40 posted on 10/09/2018 2:50:27 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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