Posted on 10/04/2018 10:45:19 PM PDT by GonzoII
...Under the regular order, the vote to advance the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court will be at 10:30.
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Correct. If a filibuster was still permitted by the rules, then 60 votes are needed to end debate. Otherwise, debate continues, or the matter is pulled from consideration. Since Reid, judicial nominees are no longer subject to filibuster. The GOP with Gorsuch applied this so-called “nuclear option” to extend to the USSC. Note: had Reid never done this, the GOP never would have had the spine to do it. Now it is the new rule, so all judicial nominees are not subject to filibuster rules. Cloture is just the term for the end of debate, which now occurs 30 hours after the cloture motion is passed by simple majority.
Re the 30 hours. Does each side get 15 hours so if republicans do not use all their hours it moves faster???
Each side gets 15 hours, yes. It’s hard to say if the GOP will use all theirs or yield back their time.
30 hours is 4 30 pm.
TODAY call and cancel any trips to/from Alaska, including cruises, and explain that Murkowski is the reason they’ll be losing tourist dollars.
Each side gets 15 hours, but lets say the Republicans want it to go faster, so refrain from giving their allotted one hour speeches, the Dems can(and probably will) hold the Senate floor by taking all 30 hours allowed, with each Democratic Senator using the maximum allowed one hour, till 30 of their members have spoken. The Dems obviously want to drag it out as long as they can.
In any case, the 30 hours runs out at 1 pm, so the cloture vote WILL take place just after 1 pm at the latest today. We need 51 votes in the cloture vote for the Senate to proceed to the final vote. The final vote takes place after another 30 hours of debate after the cloture vote which takes us to Saturday night for the final vote.
Me too, but I just found it easier to unfriend Facebook. Haven't missed it a bit.
Bump!
Of course it’s the establishment republicans fault for dragging it out for so long, but it’s crazy to say any wedding is more important than confirming a conservative to the supreme court, when one impacts the entire country and it’s people significantly. It’s probably not even an issue, but I’m surprised anyone would think we should delay confirming Kavanaugh before delaying a wedding if it came down to that.
All they need, is in the middle of the mob, to cause one or two elderly senators to trip down the stairs, be injured and go to the hospital.
They will miss the vote and Kavanaugh is not confirmed.
That would be evil.
Is that even possible? I ask because there was so much wringing of hands on what to do about the vote of that senator that had a wedding to attend to and might not make it back in time to vote. Or does McConnell have the authority to extend a vote past Saturday?
You don't seem to understand that I'm not defending McConnell. Of course he would delay the vote for himself, and he should have held the vote before Saturday, but that has nothing to do with my point. McConnell is an establishment RINO that needs to lose his seat in his next primary. I'm also not attacking Daines. He shouldn't have been placed in this circumstance when McConnell had plenty of time to get it done before now, but I'm also against any further delays. Daines was put in a bad situation, but he has a duty to country as well. From what I've read he's going to get be there to vote if needed, so it sounds like he's willing to make the sacrifice if he has too.
I don't think we disagree on McConnell and Daines. McConnell is responsible for creating this situation, and Daines seems to be handling it in the right way. I would blame Daines if he isn't able to cast a vote that would have confirmed Kavanaugh, but it doesn't sound like that will be a problem.
For Sup. Ct., cloture requires a majority now, not the formerly 60 votes, and before that 67.
Im just thankful to a merciful God that you are not a U.S. Senator.
The nuclear option (or constitutional option) is a parliamentary procedure that allows the United States Senate to override a rule specifically the 60-vote rule to close debate by a simple majority of 51 votes, rather than the two-thirds supermajority normally required to amend the rules. The option is invoked when the majority leader raises a point of order that only a simple majority is needed to close debate on certain matters. The presiding officer denies the point of order based on Senate rules, but the ruling of the chair is then appealed and overturned by majority vote, establishing new precedent.
This procedure effectively allows the Senate to decide any issue by simple majority vote, regardless of existing procedural rules such as Rule XXII which requires the consent of 60 senators (out of 100) to end a filibuster for legislation, and 67 for amending a Senate rule. The term “nuclear option” is an analogy to nuclear weapons being the most extreme option in warfare.
In November 2013, Senate Democrats used the nuclear option to eliminate the 60-vote rule on executive branch nominations and federal judicial appointments (except for appointments to the Supreme Court). In April 2017, Senate Republicans used the nuclear option to eliminate the exception for Supreme Court nominees, after the nomination of Neil Gorsuch failed to meet the requirement of 60 votes for ending the debate.[1][2]
As of January 2018, a three-fifths majority vote is still required to end debates on legislation.[3]
The cloture vote already took place. The vote tomorrow is the confirmation vote.
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