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Public School Teachers Are Not Underpaid
Mises Wire ^ | 1 October 2018 | Zachary Garris

Posted on 10/03/2018 12:47:33 PM PDT by Vigilanteman

It seems like the media will never stop promoting the myth that public school teachers are “underpaid.” The most recent example is the front-page story in Time, “This Is What It’s Like to Be a Teacher in America.”

Time tells of a woman who makes $55,000 per year teaching but works two other jobs in order to “pay the bills.” The article includes complaints about a teacher making almost $70,000 per year and even suggests that sexism is partly to blame for deficient pay because there are more women teachers than men.

It is no surprise that the media promotes these sorts of stories. They want public elementary and secondary school teachers to make more money. Unfortunately, it is probably not for the reason they want us to think. For if the media cared about teachers as a class, they would also advocate for private school teachers (who make far less than public school teachers on average). There is something about public education that concerns them.

The likely explanation for why the media constantly tell us that public school teachers should be paid more is that teachers unions and the media are political allies. It is no secret that the teachers unions have strong ties to the Democratic Party . And the mainstream media, including publications like Time, leans to the political left.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: publicschools; teacherpay
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To: mewzilla

Yeah ... ‘ZACKLY !


21 posted on 10/03/2018 1:30:00 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Over $100K per year/salary + benefits for many Milwaukee Public School teachers - and that was a few years ago, when they were calling in sick to go and destroy the State Capitol.


22 posted on 10/03/2018 1:35:25 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Go to your local public school and look at their cars.
What are they driving? 5 to 10 year old cars?
Or is it Escalades, BMW, Lexas, Corvettes?
Yeah, their hurting.......... I call BS


23 posted on 10/03/2018 1:40:53 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Vigilanteman

Depends on the state, whether teachers unions are present and the priorities of the school district. Some teachers are overpaid and underworked (unionized), some are underpaid and overworked(right to work states). A lot of school districts are bloated with overhead staff making more than the average secondary school teacher. Many of the district honchos, who do next to nothing, have salaries that in no way match their low level of effort.


24 posted on 10/03/2018 1:41:45 PM PDT by TADSLOS (I hate Russian Dolls. They are so full of themselves.)
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To: T-Bird45

About 10 yrs ago, the lady was making $52,000 a year and when she retired, it was with full pay. I do not know what she taught.. it was the wife of a fellow employee with my husband.

There is a retired coach living behind me and he retired in good shape.. the lady next door retired from Phys Ed teaching... she actually retired...does nothing, hires anything she needs done.

Personally, I just know the lady with $52,000 ....it was said they did retire with full pay. I am not a teacher though.. google it.


25 posted on 10/03/2018 1:49:12 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Vigilanteman

Wonder if teachers feel broke because of student loan debt.


26 posted on 10/03/2018 2:10:26 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem ...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

‘Contrast what teachers do and what they make and the fact they have 4 years (or more) of college, and it all adds up.’

any professional worth his/her salt should be expected to have four or more years of advanced schooling...but I guess you have some point to make...


27 posted on 10/03/2018 2:23:11 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Responsibility2nd

“They all are underpaid.”

All? Disagree. Some states have lower salaries like Montana. But NY and AK, HS Teachers can earn over $80K. In NY the average is $72K. Not bad for working about 3/4 what most people work.

And while starting teachers have to put in a lot of extra work building lesson plans, teachers with a few years pull out the stuff from previous years for most lessons. Much easier.

I respect teachers, but Not all deserve that. My father use to say there were two kinds of teachers, those that loved kids, and those that wanted summers off. He was Professor of Elementary Education at a major university.

I think a third selection could be, those that want to coach.

We are in the same zone with teachers as we are with sexual assault victim. You can’t question them. Well sorry, many teachers are not very good. Look at how we rank among other countries.

Just an FYI, my mother was a teacher and then guidance counselor, and my wife was a teacher. So I have been around a few.


28 posted on 10/03/2018 2:25:49 PM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: IrishBrigade

Maybe they should act like humans in order to be treated as humans. Look up the teacher protests at Wisconsin state capital.


29 posted on 10/03/2018 2:34:48 PM PDT by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: Vigilanteman

Get rid of the arbitrary credentialing requirements, get rid of tenure, and voucher the schools. Let teachers compete in the open market like any other professionals. Good teachers will do well, possibly better than now. Bad teachers will be forced into other occupations, and will mostly end up better off as well; in the current system, too many are enticed by artificial pay and benefit structures into staying in jobs for which they are, at best, mediocre.


30 posted on 10/03/2018 3:00:46 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: Cloverfarm
My daughter's best friend from high school would certainly be one of them. She is a school teacher now, well paid in a Pittsburgh area district because she teaches specialized subject matter for which instructors are in short supply. But she went to a pricey college and has tons of debt for which it will take years and years to get out from under.

My daughter, on the other hand, went to a modestly priced college from out of state and accumulated little debt. She is also doing well in her profession and will have her debt paid off shortly.

31 posted on 10/03/2018 3:09:47 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

They retire well and often retire young for a very long time. They make between enough and plenty. Some make way too much. They often do a bunch of crap after screwl but get a lot of time off. Heck, they even get vacations now during the screwl year some places.


32 posted on 10/03/2018 3:19:11 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Vigilanteman

They retire well and often retire young for a very long time. They make between enough and plenty. Some make way too much. They often do a bunch of crap after screwl but get a lot of time off. Heck, they even get vacations now during the screwl year some places.


33 posted on 10/03/2018 3:19:11 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: frnewsjunkie

The only direct info/experience I have is in OK where the retirement is 2% x yrs of service x high 5 year average salary. My wife retired in 2009 and was making mid-$40K salary after 29 years as a speech pathologist in the school system. So her multiplier was 58% of $42K = ~$25K less the always increasing health insurance premium she pays. The only state benefit is that $10K is exempted from state income tax. IOW, her retirement check has slipped lower every year. Even combining her Social Security check amount into the total does not get her back to 100% of what she made while teaching.


34 posted on 10/03/2018 5:54:44 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Vigilanteman
The biggest thing holding the school teachers back are the teacher's unions.

Ditch the unions and they will command much more salary.

35 posted on 10/03/2018 5:57:47 PM PDT by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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To: MileHi

Agreed, I know cops and firemen that barely pull in $3000 a month before taxes.


36 posted on 10/03/2018 9:46:42 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death:Proverbs 8:36)
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To: Conservative4Life

For the most part, teachers are doing good.


37 posted on 10/03/2018 10:02:06 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Teachers = Democratic Socialists of America.


38 posted on 10/03/2018 10:18:26 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And before the “that while schools in session” crowd gets here ...... I like homeschooling !


39 posted on 10/04/2018 12:57:59 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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