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IF TRUMP’S HURRICANE KILLED 3,000, OBAMA’S HURRICANE KILLED 20,000
Frontpage Mag ^ | 09/19/2018 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 09/19/2018 9:18:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/19/2018 9:18:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; rrstar96; AuH2ORepublican; livius; adorno; wtc911; Willie Green; CGVet58; Clemenza; ...
Puerto Rico Ping! Please Freepmail me if you want on or off the list.


2 posted on 09/19/2018 9:22:32 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been waiting for this article ... first thing I thought of when I heard how creative they were with the numbers ...


3 posted on 09/19/2018 9:34:41 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: SeekAndFind

Good find. If they bring this up again, I hope Trump uses this. Or he could say it at the TX rally when talking about the fake news media.


4 posted on 09/19/2018 9:37:22 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: SeekAndFind
Funny how things work in reverse for Democrats.
Obama, 5/9/07: "In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed," the Democratic presidential candidate said in a speech to 500 people packed into a sweltering Richmond art studio for a fundraiser.
The actual death toll was 11.
5 posted on 09/19/2018 9:40:14 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

“Hurricane” Sandy? What a joke. It was barely above a tropical storm, a low grade cat 1 hurricane.

It’s only claim to fame is it stayed off shore but close enough to do damage to the East coast, then came ashore in the most populated area of the East, New Jersey and NYC at a very high tide, followed by a storm from the north.

And all the chilluns yelled...”Proof of glo-bull warming!”


6 posted on 09/19/2018 9:40:47 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SeekAndFind
We're seeing the harsh reality of disasters unfold in North Caroline. The federal government can only do so much in a disaster. It can provide disaster relief and resources to help find and rescue people. But that can only go so far. During the disaster and for a long time after, there has to be a well organized and dedicated response where the disaster occurred.

That's what didn't happen in Puerto Rico. People who had the ability to help in their communities instead left for the mainland, and haven't returned to help. Local officials had no plans or interest in doing what had to be done on the ground so the death total after the storm isn't worse than during it.

7 posted on 09/19/2018 9:45:36 AM PDT by grania
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To: SeekAndFind

The study was a one of a kind, unprecedented hit job. When will Sandy get the same treatment, Or Matthew, Or Irma. They won’t because the ill wind blew during the Obama regime.


8 posted on 09/19/2018 9:47:24 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: cll

They did something like this after the Iraq war, where they claimed several million were killed. How did they arrive at that number? They estimated, at pre-war levels of population increase, how many people there ought to be. Then estimated (*estimated*) how many people there were in fact. The delta was supposedly the number Bush killed.

All of it was mush statistics, and assumed people continue to have babies after a calamity at the same rates they did before, which is preposterous.


9 posted on 09/19/2018 9:50:04 AM PDT by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

Fast boi Crispy Cream gave the faggot boi king a reach around too ...


10 posted on 09/19/2018 9:55:58 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Enjoy the SUCK! , 'Rats)
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To: grania

“That’s what didn’t happen in Puerto Rico. People who had the ability to help in their communities instead left for the mainland, and haven’t returned to help. Local officials had no plans or interest in doing what had to be done on the ground so the death total after the storm isn’t worse than during it”.

The second part of your statement is true. The local government collapsed. The first part is not true. people here helped each other immensely, and did so for many months under dire conditions, and learned to survive without the government. I know. I was there.


11 posted on 09/19/2018 9:58:02 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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hard to blame fat Boi. He needed the money... Just saying.


12 posted on 09/19/2018 9:58:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Manhattan lost power because one of its major power plants was sitting right on the water.


Most of Manhattan’s power plants (but not quite all) sit right on the water, because they were originally built - some by Edison - to be fueled by either coal or by oil from tankers, and had their own docks.

With power lines from other locations as backup, relocating them inland (in Manhattan) isn’t reasonable.

Puerto Rico, on the other hand, had ALL of their power plants on their coast, with NO other sources of power.


13 posted on 09/19/2018 9:58:12 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I used this one a lot.

Look at all the nodding heads on stage with him. Helps to convince the mindless idiots in the audience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjO8Qc5s1fY


14 posted on 09/19/2018 10:07:54 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SeekAndFind
That one had a margin of error of “plus or minus 3,852.”

They had a margin of error of 9/11. That puts into perspective the worthlessness of this propaganda

15 posted on 09/19/2018 10:11:26 AM PDT by ilgipper
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The reports in the media were that a lot of people in medical professions left for the mainland. I have not doubt that people who were there helped each other. But what about the ones who had the skills needed to bring things back but didn't stay?

I was on a cruise in January and the day in San Juan left a bad impression. There were eight ships in port. Other affected ports only had two ships and everything else was dedicated to recovery. There was a festival going on in San Juan. I get it that a few ships should be there to bring back the tourism industry as recovery was done. But so many? A festival draining resources and effort that could've been used toward recovery?

The ship I was on had a real good passenger base. So many wanted to learn about the recovery and help if we could. The other two impacted-area stops gave us that. It isn't the fault of the good people of PR; I know that. But somehow, you've got to get better leadership.

FWIW, I was scheduled for a walking tour of Old San Juan with a lunch at a small local restaurant. It was cancelled. With any innovation from liason with the cruise ship, the owners could've been brought on board to supervise a meal for us. In another port, a school full of children took a tour of the boat. Cruisers shared boat transportation to a beach that was available to taxi both residents and cruisers to a beach that had been cleaned up. That kind of connection was real healthy.

16 posted on 09/19/2018 10:12:17 AM PDT by grania
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

That’s not quite right.

You are completely right that Hurricane Sandy had diminished to a minor tropical storm - however, it then ran into a cold front and developed into a huge, and hugely-powerful non-hurricane. Its’ major effects reached into Illinois.

It was really huge.
http://www.sciencebuzz.org/blog/storm-sandy-makes-her-presence-felt

You are right of course, that this had nothing to do with global warming, as it wasn’t abnormally warm at any point along its path, and it only became a monster when it ran into a *cold* front. Hurricanes gain effect from differentials, anyways, not absolute temperature, along with a specific balance of wind-shear.

If wind shear is to little, they don’t spin up. If it is too much, it disrupts the hurricane.


17 posted on 09/19/2018 10:14:55 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: grania

Sorry that you had a bad impression about your visit, but a very important goal after the storms was to restart the tourism industry ASAP, and that’s what you saw. Most of the damage on the island was up in the mountains. San Juan fared quite well, and its harbor is huge and can handle eight cruise ships while at the same time handling cargo on the non-tourist piers. If those eight cruise ships hadn’t been there, the disaster for many people would have been worse. Above all, we needed jobs, and that’s what you, unwittingly perhaps, helped provide. And thank you, btw.


18 posted on 09/19/2018 10:19:25 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberal robots are still insisting on the 3000 number - because their betters told them.


19 posted on 09/19/2018 11:12:43 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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Next visit am I going to meet people in villages and get a real Puerto Rican meal? This year, the cruise I’m taking isn’t stopping in PR. I try NEVER to take a tour where I’m a disconnected tourist.


20 posted on 09/19/2018 11:16:11 AM PDT by grania
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