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Trump says 3,000 did not die in Puerto Rico hurricane, claims Democrats manipulated numbers
NBC News ^ | Sept 13, 2018 | Adam Edelman

Posted on 09/13/2018 9:16:23 AM PDT by tkocur

President Donald Trump on Thursday denied the massive death toll estimate in Puerto Rico caused by Hurricane Maria last year, claiming without evidence that Democrats invented the numbers "to make me look as bad as possible."

"3,000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths," Trump tweeted Thursday morning. "As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3,000."

Trump added that, "This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico."

"If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics," Trump said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; denial; dumppuertoriconow; fakenumbers; hurricanemaria; prcorruption; trumpfema
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To: Fido969

Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics....

Anything the Democrats touch turns to crap

Including that island, beautiful but infested with people who have lost initiative in a Government steeped in Graft


21 posted on 09/13/2018 9:35:00 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: Zhang Fei

Can we fly in and retrieve out 1 million bottles of water that the let sit on their damned runways. What paid for that?


22 posted on 09/13/2018 9:35:05 AM PDT by raiderboy (Trump promised “shut down the government” in September; if no wall!!)
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To: be-baw

The official death toll was 64

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/08/us/puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-death-toll.html

That is from the slimes

If the official number is 64, which is still a lot but not 3,000 that is claimed by the MSM and the Political Puerto Rico Government. The 3,000+ number is counting people who died of a heart attack or whatever and they are claiming since they did not have power they could not have been saved. And since the power was knocked out by the hurricane, it is storm related. The numbers include people who died 6+ months out from the storm.

It is a little misleading and is only to pump up the numbers to hit President Trump with. Because we all know President Trump is 100% responsible for the power grid in Puerto Rico, it is not even a state and the local government did not give a rats rear end about it either until piles of money was being thrown around to fix it. Only then they cared and complained the contractor picked to fix it wasn’t chosen by the Puerto Rican government, AKA no kickbacks were given, so they were pissed.


23 posted on 09/13/2018 9:35:22 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: raiderboy

The water is likely beyond the expiry date


24 posted on 09/13/2018 9:36:02 AM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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To: be-baw
There were estimates all over the place. Check out this WaPo article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/13/president-trumps-four-pinocchio-complaint-about-maria-death-toll-figures/?utm_term=.4c8524d9d1db


Wow! look at the comments there. Such insanity against the president. All the statistics were built using data that pits the number of deaths after the hurricane against the normal expected deaths. I would argue that deaths should only be tallied for those who died directly when the hurricane happened (such as drowning from flooding). Maybe put the stop date a week after landfall. Everything after that is on the local authorities to implement survival plans and accept and distribute FEMA relief. The fact that a million bottles of water are still sitting on tarmacs tells me who to blame for failure to protect their people, and it ain't the president. I feel sorry for US citizens of Puerto Rico that they have such corrupt leaders.
25 posted on 09/13/2018 9:37:26 AM PDT by siberianheat
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To: VanShuyten

Of course he is going to say that, who has been moving into Florida?

Foam boy knows who butters his bread


26 posted on 09/13/2018 9:37:28 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: tkocur

Let’s get a list of the people killed by the hurricane. This was allegedly the same number of people killed on 9/11. Print their names, the date of death and the official cause of death on the death certificates. Make these clowns prove their exaggerated claims.


27 posted on 09/13/2018 9:38:43 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

The PR govt amended that to 2975 based on these “studies” which did not establish anything close to hurricane deaths...just death after the hurricane,which was based off extrapolating mortality rates into raw numbers. Very scientific.


28 posted on 09/13/2018 9:38:51 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: tkocur

And he’s right; the 3,000 figure was determined by a computer analysis, not a body count. Essentially, researchers at George Washington University determined the number of people who died during the specified period, versus the estimated mortality rate if there hadn’t been a storm.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6164089/Trump-says-claim-Puerto-Rico-hurricane-killed-2-975-people-FAKE.html

This is junk science at its worst—and funded with your tax dollars. What’s worse, weasels like Paul Ryan say there’s “no reason to challenge the numbers.” Can’t wait to see the corner of the swamp where Ryan takes up residence after leaving office.


29 posted on 09/13/2018 9:39:35 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: tkocur

CNN says he’s claiming they didn’t die.

That is NOT POTUS is claiming.

OMG the MSM is so evil.


30 posted on 09/13/2018 9:39:44 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: bert

Ill drink it!! Ha. What a poor work ethic those people have. Can you image the government corruption that put them billions in debt. I am so glad we are not paying that debt.


31 posted on 09/13/2018 9:41:09 AM PDT by raiderboy (Trump promised “shut down the government” in September; if no wall!!)
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To: tkocur

9/11 early estimates were 20,000 to 30,000 DEAD.

Not disparaging the dead, just the news media (the undead)


32 posted on 09/13/2018 9:44:23 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“storm related”?

Isn’t she peddling a book someone wrote for her?


33 posted on 09/13/2018 9:44:28 AM PDT by Leep
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To: Trump.Deplorable

“””It is a little misleading and is only to pump up the numbers to hit President Trump with. Because we all know President Trump is 100% responsible for the power grid in Puerto Rico, it is not even a state and the local government did not give a rats rear end about it either until piles of money was being thrown around to fix it”””


Several years ago the Puerto Rican government robbed money from the Puerto Rico Electric Company to payoff the debts they had incurred elsewhere. The Puerto Rican power grid was in trouble before the 2017 hurricanes and the storms only made things worse.

Puerto Rico was planning on the USA taxpayers to build a new power grid for them.


34 posted on 09/13/2018 9:47:00 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: NEMDF
and their death certificates showed smoking as a cause of death.

I once discussed that very thing with my BIL who was an Oncologist and had signed many, many death certs. over the years.

He said no doctor should ever put that as the cause of death since it's unverifiable. You put the actual cause such as pancreatic cancer, lung cancer, heart attack, liver failure or some other such terminal illness.....

35 posted on 09/13/2018 9:48:14 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I once found a needle in a haystack but it wasn't the one I was looking for...)
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To: Hojczyk
Pretty much.

There was an original estimate which was low. ("The deaths of 64 people were initially directly attributed to the hurricane by the government of Puerto Rico")

Groups began re-evaluating the numbers and extending deaths past the actual hurricane claiming these people died as a result of the hurricane.

It went from 64 to 3000. People are probably still dying from Hurricane Maria.

36 posted on 09/13/2018 9:49:50 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: tkocur

How many military deaths occurred after President Obama changed the rules of engagement in the Middle East?


37 posted on 09/13/2018 9:53:48 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Junk Silver
...claiming without evidence

Good old FakeNewsNBC. They state that President Trump claims "without evidence” that the numbers are inflated but they never attach the same "without evidence" label to the 3000 number. What a pathetic organization.

Most companies, when they transition to another industry or diversify, modify their name. FakeNewsNBC should change their name from "NBCNews" to "NBCIndoctrination", "NBCRe-Education" or "NBC-NothingButCrud".
38 posted on 09/13/2018 9:55:44 AM PDT by JayNorth (Apparently Verizon Wireless is taking customer service lessons from United Airlines.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Let me add that it was in June 2013 while Obama was President that Puerto Rico robbed funds from the PUERTO RICO ELECTRIC POWER AUTHORITY to pay the debts incurred elsewhere by the Puerto Rico government.

Two can play the blame game.

President Obama had the opportunity to clean up the Puerto Rico mess in 2013 and he did nothing but kick the can down the road.


39 posted on 09/13/2018 9:55:56 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: yesthatjallen

The 64 number was the official number of dead, aka bodies.

All other numbers have been estimates, a computer simulation/program developed to estimate deaths based on not having proper infrastructure after the hurricane, the time period was for 6 months after the hurricane.

The numbers are fake since they are not counting bodies but imaginary people who might have or could have died.

64 is still the official number, everything else is political BS


40 posted on 09/13/2018 9:56:05 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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