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Flashback: The 5th plane to be seized on 9/11, and the terrorists who got away
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Posted on 09/11/2018 5:02:54 PM PDT by TigerClaws

Have you heard about the airliner which was ordered back to the gate on 9/11 when the terrorist attacks began, only to have four young Arab passengers jump off the plane, after which box cutters and Al Qaeda documents were found in their abandoned bags?

I’ve heard that story before, but since it was never reported by the U.S. government, and not mentioned by the 9/11 Commission in their official report, I thought it might be another of those urban myths. Until now. Yesterday’s Wilmington (Delaware) News-Journal featured a front-page article on the Delaware Air National Guard’s first female general, Carol Timmons, who was promoted to that rank at a ceremony on Saturday. General Timmons has had a long career as a pilot, including time as a commercial pilot for Pan Am and United Airlines. The profile of General Timmons recounts that on the morning of September 11, 2001, she was the first officer on United Airlines flight 23 preparing to take-off from New York’s JFK Airport bound for Los Angeles. The plane had already pulled away from the gate and was taxiing down the runway when the airport was shut down and the crew was ordered to secure the cockpit. Timmons confirmed that as the pilot grabbed the crash ax, she jumped from her seat and started barricading the cockpit door. From the other side of the barricade the cabin crew relayed their concern about four young Arab men in first-class who became agitated when the take-off was cancelled, and fled from the plane when it returned to the terminal. Box cutters and Al Qaeda documents were later found in their luggage. Timmons, the pilot, and the rest of the crew were repeatedly questioned by the FBI, though the findings were never shared. The pilot concluded that Flight 23 would have been the next plane hijacked by terrorists if the airport shutdown order had been delayed.

“The FBI asks questions,” General Timmons is quoted as saying, “They don’t tell you things.”

Why wouldn’t the U.S. government want to report the incident? Why didn’t the 9/11 Commission mention it in their official report? Were they concerned about panicking the public? Were they trying to apprehend the four passengers who fled? Why maintain official silence about the incident a decade later?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Delaware; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 911anniversary; caroltimmons; delaware; fbi; flight23
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To: TigerClaws

Thanks


21 posted on 09/11/2018 5:42:17 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: alternatives?
“It should be clear to everyone by now that the FBI and government agencies can’t be trusted. They operate for the good of the Deep State and “New World Order” and not for the benefit of the American people.” In hindsight, think of all the new surveillance tools they received. Never let a crisis go to waste.

Partner, The FBI is so corrupt right now and the Justice Department is corrupt also. These guys woek with the Deep State but hopefully President Trump will uncover a lot of this garbage quickly and swiftly.

It will start by firing Jeff Sessions, Rod Rosenstein, and Robert Mueller after the Nov. 6th elections.

22 posted on 09/11/2018 5:44:12 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I have a Flight Attendant friend who I have first hand information of her life being threatened on a flight by a “foreign looking” male who she had to force out of the rear lavatory. He was taken off the flight in Detroit and the Marshal who took her statement told her that they already knew of the guy from previous similar events. I got involved at that point and made a formal inquiry asking through my congressional office if he was on the no fly list. They told me that the FBI would not tell them. Also, found that her Report on the incident was “lost” by her airline.

Remember members of the Muslim Brotherhood were (are?) on the Homeland Security Advisory Board. I think that reports of incidents like this went through them and were suppressed.


23 posted on 09/11/2018 5:44:51 PM PDT by Captain7seas (UNexit. Make America Great Again!)
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To: jtal
I agree .
I was on a plane that was ordered back after taking off at SFO.
We were told to take our bags and walk one by one out of the plane and security was there pulling people out of line and we were told to keep walking .
24 posted on 09/11/2018 5:44:52 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves ever)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

See post 23


25 posted on 09/11/2018 5:48:20 PM PDT by Captain7seas (UNexit. Make America Great Again!)
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To: TigerClaws

I don’t understand why they would want to suppress this information. If anything you would want to demonstrate the necessity and effectiveness of the decision to shut down the nations airways. Not to mention an APB for the hijackers. But then again this was the same administration that let the Saudis fly home when everyone else was grounded.


26 posted on 09/11/2018 5:51:45 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: TigerClaws

Read today some 80 plus muslims were training in flight simulation. Could have been much worse.

Only 19 unfortunately succeeded.... 5 illegals.


27 posted on 09/11/2018 6:01:28 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Government can never be trusted. It’s full of government employees.


28 posted on 09/11/2018 6:05:14 PM PDT by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: TigerClaws

**** after which box cutters and ****

I read after 9-11 that for several weeks the cleanup crews were finding box cutters stashed on several planes.

I notice that report has disappeared from the internet. It was a CBS report. Here is a similar one from CNN before they went bonkers.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/23/inv.investigation.terrorism/

I flew in 2000 to Sand Diego and had a 3 inch blade pocket knife on me. No problems. On the way back, the blade length was measured and it was still A-OK. No more.


29 posted on 09/11/2018 6:09:59 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The box cutters were in their luggage. It doesn't say checked luggage--it may be luggage in the overhead bins.

The government should have been able to figure out the identities of the Arabs who ran away.

It's obvious why the information was suppressed--the government was trying to minimize any negative reactions on the part of the public towards Muslims.

Another reason to be glad Al Gore was not President on 9-11. Would he have shut down all the other flights as quickly as Bush did? I just can't see Gore handling the crisis as well as GWB did.

30 posted on 09/11/2018 6:10:29 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: TigerClaws

The article you quoted had a link down in the text to the Gannett-owned paper in Delaware in which Timmons once again old this story. The story was supposedly in yesterday’s paper. Yet, the link to it is now dead just a day later, and the paper’s site itself seems to have purged her story today. t doesn’t show up in a search anywhere.


31 posted on 09/11/2018 6:11:41 PM PDT by Marcus Licinius Crassus (“O Judgment, thou art fled to brutish beasts, and men have lost their reason.” -Shakespeare)
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To: TigerClaws
Katherine Smith Bump

Five Men with Mideast Ties Indicted in License Scam (Tennessee License Scandal)

TENN DRIVER LICENSE SCANDAL: FLAMING DEATH NO ACCIDENT, FBI SAYS

Car fire set off suspicions as crew fought it (Smith Tennesee License Scandal)

License suspect had WTC repair pass, but Port Authority did its own work [Tennessee License Scandal]

The pass gave him access to the buildings' sprinkler systems.

I bet he "fixed" them real good...

Treason is not too strong a word.

32 posted on 09/11/2018 6:12:43 PM PDT by null and void (McCain is dead but the A-10 lives on.)
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To: wgmalabama

New tagline


33 posted on 09/11/2018 6:16:15 PM PDT by null and void (Government can never be trusted. ItÂ’s full of government employees.)
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To: TigerClaws

interesting......too bad they didn’t grab those muzzies..


34 posted on 09/11/2018 6:16:59 PM PDT by cherry (official troll)
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To: Marcus Licinius Crassus

Fahrenheit 404


35 posted on 09/11/2018 6:17:44 PM PDT by null and void (Government can never be trusted. ItÂ’s full of government employees.)
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To: TigerClaws

I had not heard. So there are 4 subhuman savages who wanted to kill humans! and we were not told! and no one tried to find them?


36 posted on 09/11/2018 6:19:15 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

too busy arranging governments around the world instead of protecting AMERICA.


37 posted on 09/11/2018 6:21:00 PM PDT by cherry (official troll)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

well Bush had the military and Rudy and the NYC cops and firemen...and we the people.


38 posted on 09/11/2018 6:22:52 PM PDT by cherry (official troll)
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To: TheConservativeTejano

#RememberRubyRidge
#RememberWoundedKnee
#RememberWaco
#RememberRichardJewell
#RememberMLK


39 posted on 09/11/2018 6:26:02 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd [PBUH---Pigblood be upon him]; Charles Martel for President)
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To: South Dakota

Shhhhh. Musn’t make mention of things the government says didn’t happen, ya know.


40 posted on 09/11/2018 6:27:15 PM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Sweet Saint Skittles bounced dat ole white Craka head off da sidewalk causin he was real skeered.)
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