Posted on 09/07/2018 6:30:12 PM PDT by blueplum
{snip}...The report said a substitute administrator, Marie So, was in charge the night of the fire and wasn't familiar with the facility's evacuation plan. "She did not utilize Villa Capri's emergency binder during the evacuation, did not know where keys for facility vehicles were kept, where flashlights were kept, or where batteries for flashlights were kept, nor did she know how to direct the staff she was supervising during the emergency," the report said. At the nearby Varenna facility, touted on its website as a "luxury retirement community," 228 residents were being cared for the night of the fire. The on-site staff wasn't trained for fires or evacuations. Three staffers proceeded to begin evacuating residents from their rooms when Condie arrived and told them to return them to their rooms. Condie said "he did not want to cause issues or make trouble" for the three companies that control the facility, according to the report. He left the facility without telling staff he was departing or providing further instructions. The three staff members left as well. Family members showed up soon after and began evacuating residents on their own. Emergency responders showed up, "kicked in locked doors throughout the facility and alerted sleeping residents," the report said.
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The only thing nursing home administration cares about is making money.
Nursing homes are very heavily regulated
You mean they had a part-time staff?
The header is bullshit-——they are retirement communities-——BIG difference.
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I’ve been at a local facility for some of its drills. Even when the staff knows what it’s doing, it’s a difficult job. WTH didn’t family members have a clue that this was a problem and either raise an almighty stink or find another facility for their loved ones? And where in Hades were the state regulators?
Retirement communities don’t necessarily have around the clock care. They’re for seniors who can live a more independent lifestyle.
Nursing homes are for older people who can’t take care of theur own needs.
Just checked. It was an assisted living and memory care facility. There would have been staff on site 24/7. Or there should have been.
The best places have the feel of home.
A comfortable place to stay, secure surroundings and good food and daily care.
“———find another facility for their loved ones? “
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These are not nursing homes but pricey retirement communities.
Some people would need help,but most don’t.
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They should be on site 24/7.
Its not as intensive as hospital care but its not intended to be.
I know the difference-——and retirement communities can be VERY pricey.
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Long term care places are usually funded by Medicaid.
Medicare pays only for the first 100 days skilled nursing care. Seniors usually are eligible for both plans.
It was a continuum of custodial care. Assisted living requires varying levels of assistance, hence the 24/7 staff. Yes, some residents might have been able to evac on their own, but the staff would/should have been trained to manage the evac. The memory care is for dementia patients who would likely need an even higher level of assistance.
If people have money to live a retirement community, its very good for those 55 and over.
Everything is on site and there’s included transportation to shopping, restaurants and cultural activities.
I AM a senior-——and believe me I have looked at all of the choices.
I’m still in my own condo——but who knows what is ahead.
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Geez Louise. She’s got a home full of the sick and elderly and she didn’t know the evacuation plan?
I went back to school awhile back and worked in one of the university libraries. First darned thing they do is give you the emergency binder and tell you to learn it. At the very least, she should have coupled with an experienced staffer and worked thru the procedures in the binder.
No one thinks they are going to have an emergency until it happens to them.
Unbelievable.
Very sad. I see lawsuits in this company’s future.
And, it’s not like these fires popped up, suddenly, out of nowhere.
An action plan should’ve been released, specifically for these fires, by HQ DAYS before it got to this point.
Nope. Medicare pays for up to 100 days. But the insurance companies - who act as intermediaries between Medicare and the insured Seniors - aren't required by Medicare to keep funding the entire 100 days.
The insurance company I'm intimately familiar with - Kaiser Permanente, having twice struggled with them on behalf of a parent - cuts off the payment after 14 days. Like clockwork.
They don't do it directly, but rather indirectly by forcing the SNF/Rehab Facility middlemen you deal with to produce an assessment that either, A) Says the patient is dong so well at exactly 14 days that further therapy is useless, or B) The patient is doing so poorly at exactly 14 days that further therapy is useless, or C) If they're exactly halfway between, then flip a coin to choose either (A) or (B) and spin the assessment accordingly.
You can appeal, but with little to no result. In one case, I argued that Rehab progress was clearly being made in spite of a premature negative assessment made 3 days before the end, and talked personally with the MD who was the head of the team. He relented a tiny bit and gave us 4 more days of SNF / rehab therapy.
At the other Rehab facility, they never allowed me to talk to either the head therapist nor the MD in charge, nor to even see the therapists' notes in time to make a difference, so I had to appeal directly to some 3rd party reviewer approved by Medicare. I won the 1st & 2nd appeals solely due to technicalities (the facility missed a deadline once, and forgot a form the 2nd time), but I was denied the 3rd appeal. Winning each appeal bought exactly 2 days apiece. Whoopdeedoo. They didn't spot us an extra day or two for the Labor Day weekend.
I currently have Kaiser myself, but am dumping it in Nov, due to these two experiences.
Actually, they did. There were entire families trapped in homes they couldn’t escape from. Many were awakened by knocks on doors with only minutes to get out. My wife’s cousin lost everything but the car they escaped in, the clothes they had on, and what few items they could carry. The fire moved quickly into Santa Rosa.
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