Posted on 08/24/2018 2:24:14 PM PDT by Drango
ATLANTA — It’s August here, which means things are hot, verging on swampy. And it’s cigarette break time, which means the denizens of the Barge Road Highrise senior housing complex are both hot and cranky. Really cranky...So yeah, they’re mad.
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Smokers stink.
If you can afford cigarettes, you can afford to pay your own rent. Stop sucking on the taxpayer teat.
obozo-era rule.
THIS one can be kept.
(trombone): *whah *whaaaaah*
If you want the government in your life ....don’t act like a bitch when they tell you how to live it.
OUR housing, OUR rules.
A New Smoking Ban In Public Housing Roils Some Residents
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Man, if I were those people, I’d move. Get my own place.
That’ll show ‘em.
Ouch...an economic boycott of public housing. If only...
You think they’re mad now. Just wait until Medicaid starts refusing to treat smokers.
If Medicaid stopped treating smokers it would have to stop treating people with other poor lifestyle choices.
It will never happen.
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“Smokers stink.
If you can afford cigarettes, you can afford to pay your own rent. Stop sucking on the taxpayer teat.”
So do people who wear too much perfume or after shave.
The cost of cigarettes is high because the government taxes addicts. If you have to live in government housing should you be told you can’t eat sugar, fat or whatever else they tell you?
Disabled and elderly often have to live in government housing because they are not working and can’t afford anything else and the government took the Social Security money they put away for their whole lives.
Government stinks. Find another scapegoat.
Probably has them in a real huff!
Like your place.
Terrible analogy there.
Sugar and some fats are necessary to a balanced diet. In what way is tobacco a good thing?
Feel free to eat all the sugar and fat in my presence that you want to. I will not be affected or offended. Smoke near me? Yeah, that’s a problem.
Perhaps the elderly smokers in government housing would not be there if they invested thousands of dollars in retirement planning instead of cigarettes. Perhaps they are not working due to their bad health due to their smoking.
Public housing tenants are more likely to smoke than people who don’t live in public housing
Ditto for Medicaid, food stamps, etc. Consider the cost to Medicaid by smokers. What if Medicaid and Obamacare, and VA care were to charge smokers a premium, a surcharge for the extra cost of their lifestyle?
Smoking, alcohol, drugs, promiscuous sex are at the heart big medical costs.
>>If Medicaid stopped treating smokers it would have to stop treating people with other poor lifestyle choices.
It will never happen<<
I would not count on that so quickly.
Smoking is politically correct to hate. Look at this rule.
There has also been talk of drug testing for public housing (I found a proposed bill from last year).
So it is possible they will add lifestyle choices, starting with smoking but next up it might be a drug/alcohol screening to control costs.
I normally don’t believe much in slippery slope arguments but this isn’t slippery slope so much as camel in the tent.
Hey! All you holier-than-thou freepers, if in fact you are.....give it a rest. Smoking is not healthy and is smelly however, so does Marijuana smokers, they are really smelly.....I’ve known a lot of non smokers who died of lung cancer and other ailments related to (”they say”) smoking.
Perhaps they are not working due to their bad health due to their smoking .....Perhaps it’s none of your damned business.
This is similar to the question “are the right people dying in the opioid crisis?” in the sense that bad behaviors are a part of an elastic and faulty human behavior. If you could snap your fingers and eliminate the opioid problem, how many of the folks presently headed in the direction of an opioid OD would just change directions slightly and OD on something else?
With these smokers, I suppose the upside is reduced life expectancy. The downside is - it’s all public services that will be consumed until then.
In the public health sphere, you sense the mentality is that you will never eliminate the problem, so you must accommodate it. I say, not on the public dime!
It is my damned business, fool.
They are in government housing ON MY DIME.
That makes it my dammed business.
And suppose some of those people only spend $10-20/month on their tobacco? Ya, some of it is very inexpensive. For some of those folks, it’s their Only frivolous expense.
Nonsmoker’s don’t realize how badly it smells. Finally, these people grew up on a very different era, and their attitudes reflect that difference.
Don’t be sad, most of the old folks will be dead in a few years and you won’t have to worry about what other people do in their own personal lives. Right?
Compliance? Good luck with that come winter. I’m not a smoker, and when I was a home health nurse, I would have to spend an hour or more in a smokers apartment, and I hated it. But I can say pretty confidently, that some of my former patients, if still alive, will NEVER stop smoking. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands, if not millions. The government will end up spending millions on high end exhaust systems in covered, heated and air conditioned walkways, attached to heated and air conditioned huts. The government never saves any money. (Trump has saved some, but the congress will eat that up and more.)
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