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It's not science I don't trust - it's the scientists
The Spectator ^ | 2018-08-24 | James Delingpole

Posted on 08/24/2018 2:02:42 AM PDT by cartan

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Good article about liberal “science.”
1 posted on 08/24/2018 2:02:42 AM PDT by cartan
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Very good


2 posted on 08/24/2018 2:31:23 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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At the outset, “social science” isn’t really science in any meaningful sense. It’s not even a ‘soft” science.


3 posted on 08/24/2018 2:53:41 AM PDT by circlecity
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Next you’re going to tell me that scientific socialism isn’t…
4 posted on 08/24/2018 3:09:27 AM PDT by cartan
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For Progressives, Marxist Communists, and Socialists, ‘science’ is the revelation of Ultimate Questions regarding the origin of cosmos, life, man, and all else. This is why Marxist Communism was described as scientific socialism. It’s their religious worldview.


5 posted on 08/24/2018 3:14:46 AM PDT by spirited irish
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Some people are logical decision makers and say “I’ll believe it if In see it. Some people are emotional decision makers and can only see it if they believe it.

This is why love is blind. People who are in love with themselves are blind to their faults!!!


6 posted on 08/24/2018 3:17:14 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Liberals love science when they can use it, distort it, or just conjure I up out of nothing. Their whole “peer” review process is nothing more than assumed consent amongst likeminded people. It’s the truly technical studies that make this more difficult because liberals don’t like contravening findings that put their near religious social scientific belief structures to the test.


7 posted on 08/24/2018 3:24:41 AM PDT by downtownconservative (L)
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The scientist community relies on federal funding, they drank the cool aide the rats and their criminal agenda were offering or the unemployment line,


8 posted on 08/24/2018 3:29:08 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: cartan

Physics and math fit the Bible very well. No conflict for me.


9 posted on 08/24/2018 3:30:21 AM PDT by onedoug
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>>It’s not science they distrust so much as scientists — especially ones in more nebulous, activism-driven fields like ecology or sociology.

Jerry Pournelle called these the Voodoo Sciences many years ago, and was quite dismissive of them, and for good reasons.

https://www.jerrypournelle.com/science/voodoo.html

The first part of the above was written in 1988, so the issues with so-called “Science” in these areas have been known for a few decades.


10 posted on 08/24/2018 3:35:08 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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‘What an odd coincidence that “science” always, without exception, supports the liberal worldview.’

They blinded me with science.

11 posted on 08/24/2018 3:58:08 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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It’s not science. It’s institutional Lysenkoism.


12 posted on 08/24/2018 3:59:20 AM PDT by henkster (Monsters from the Id.)
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As others have already pointed out, sociology is not science. Its publications are rampant with descriptions of “studies” that exist only to confirm pre-conceived biases.

Sociology could provide important insights into the roots of various societal trends and so forth, but that is not what it is used for. Its practioners use it to “prove” utopian ideas that any person with a rudimentary understanding of human behavior and economics would recognize as unworkable and destructive.


13 posted on 08/24/2018 4:05:22 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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>>The scientist community relies on federal funding, they drank the cool aide the rats and their criminal agenda were offering or the unemployment line,<<

Deep State Federal “climate change” funding comes with a conclusion for “researchers” to confirm.

The funding scientific methodology: draw your lines, then plot your points.


14 posted on 08/24/2018 4:24:16 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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I'm glad some dissenters such as the Heartland Institute can at least publish information even though most college professors would be fired or lose all funding for reviewing it.
15 posted on 08/24/2018 4:27:50 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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“cIt’s not science I don’t trust - it’s the scientists”

Such as the National Marine Fisheries Service “scientists” that fraudulently concocted millions of pounds of red snapper landings that never happened but was used to collapse the southeaster stock in their computer. This fraudulent data was used as a basis for a total closure of the fishery many years ago and it remains closed today.

This information was presented to Congress in a Fisheries Sub Committee Hearing...NOTHING has been done about it.

The ocean is brimming with red snapper and our fishermen can’t touch them...however you can buy all the Vietnamese Catfish you can eat (BASA).


16 posted on 08/24/2018 4:37:21 AM PDT by Captain7seas (UNexit. Make America Great Again!)
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The mistake is equating sociology with any form of “science”.


17 posted on 08/24/2018 4:55:37 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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sci·en·tism ˈsīənˌtizəm/ -- The worship of Science and using belief of absolute Theory as fact.
18 posted on 08/24/2018 5:00:47 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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While Margaret Thatcher said the ‘facts of life are conservative’, how can we be sure that the facts of science don’t naturally swing left? This is what left-wing scientists seem to believe. But as Cofnas shows, in order to reach that conclusion, they have to torture the data till it screams. Or even just make it up.

My ideas are so good that have to be true.

It would be a waste of time and money to do the research to prove my theory.

It will be cheaper just to write up the results the way I know that they will turn out.

Easy peezy

19 posted on 08/24/2018 5:21:48 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Richard Feynman had a hierarchy of the sciences (and one non-science):
Physics is applied mathematics.
Chemistry is applied physics.
Biology is applied chemistry.
Psychology is a bunch of witch doctors.


20 posted on 08/24/2018 5:24:58 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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