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Townhall.com ^ | August 22, 2018 | John Stossel

Posted on 08/22/2018 1:47:49 PM PDT by Kaslin

YouTube just added an "information panel" to all my videos about climate change.

We at Stossel TV do weekly videos on many controversial topics, but apparently YouTube thinks climate change is special.

The information panel seems benign -- just a link to a Wikipedia page about global warming -- and YouTube puts it on all climate change videos.

But Wikipedia's page was captured by activists. It's biased in favor of desperate alarmism. You'd have to read carefully to know that the billions we're spending now to fight climate change will make little difference.

The YouTube information panel doesn't mention the Climategate scandal in which scientists were accused of skewing data, ignores climate models that over-predicted warming, etc.

It basically says the science of climate change is settled.

Only near the very end does the YouTube information panel briefly mention skepticism from conservative and libertarian think tanks. But the editors don't let skeptics give reasons for their skepticism.

It's very one-sided.

In addition, adding these information panels is a form of bias. They don't add Wikipedia links on Bernie Sanders' ignorant videos on economics (this one would help, or this)

This is not a free speech issue because the First Amendment applies (and should apply) only to government censorship. YouTube is a private company (owned by Google) that can censor whatever it wants. We have several social media companies -- but just one government.

I'm glad Twitter purges robots and Facebook bans posts that call for direct violence (that's illegal, after all). But I worry when big media companies start policing content.

Recently, Facebook, YouTube, Apple Podcasts and others banned Alex Jones's network, InfoWars, for "hate speech."

Jones is an irresponsible jerk, but most sites didn't ban him for any specific thing he did recently. As Robby Soave writes on Reason.com, "We don't know which statements he made were deemed hateful, or why. We don't know if Jones is being singled out, or if anyone who said the things he said would be banned."

That's a problem.

Twitter permanently banned conservative commentator Gavin McInnes, saying he was "violating our policy prohibiting violent extremist groups."

McInnes founded a conservative group, and some of its members did attend racist rallies, something McInnes denounced. I cringe at things McInnes says. But he's not a racist. He's a defender of Western civilization.

Real extremists like Richard Spencer laughed about McInnes being banned on Twitter because McInnes often criticizes them.

McInnes suspects extremists like Spencer get to keep tweeting because they can so easily be dismissed or held up by the left to make the right look bad. Mainstream figures like McInnes are a bigger threat to Twitter liberals, he says.

"I'm not a violent extremist. I'm not even violent," McInnes says. "I'm just a Trump supporter who is fiscally conservative, socially liberal and refuses to kowtow to the PC left and their silly fads. That's more dangerous to the left."

Twitter never told McInnes what he did to warrant being banned, so we asked Twitter. They told us they have "nothing more to share at this time."

Another recent example: Facebook censored PragerU, a conservative outlet that posts dignified videos on topics like limited government.

Facebook "shadowbanned" PragerU's videos. That's when the user of a platform (PragerU) assumes posts reach viewers, but Facebook doesn't show the post to many people. Facebook tricked PragerU into thinking their messages were getting out.

Facebook later apologized, saying, "We mistakenly removed these videos ... We're very sorry and are continuing to look into what happened."

I suspect what happened is that leftist "content monitors" at Facebook decided that fewer conservative videos should be seen. Whatever Mark Zuckerberg says about his miraculous algorithms, censorship is generally done by humans.

Private media platforms have every right to decide who can use them. But the platforms are wrong to shut down people with whom they disagree.

President Trump took to Twitter this weekend to urge open and freewheeling debate, tweeting, "Let everybody participate, good & bad, and we will all just have to figure it out!"

Trump, despite his bluster in favor of strong libel laws, added, "Censorship is a very dangerous thing & absolutely impossible to police. If you are weeding out Fake News, there is nothing so Fake as CNN & MSNBC, & yet I do not ask that their sick behavior be removed."

The answer to bad speech is more speech. We're better off when people speak their minds.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: cencorship; freespeech; internet; socialmedia; youtube
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1 posted on 08/22/2018 1:47:49 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Heh, information panel indeed. I’d bet that I could give an elementary atmospheric absorption quiz to the perps of this “panel” to see how much they really know about CO2 absorption spectra, other gasses that absorb in the IR region, and some extinction lengths, and we’d get around a 1% pass rate.


2 posted on 08/22/2018 1:54:01 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Kaslin

“Information panels”... to be applied subjectively and arbitrarily... according to left-coasters trying to interfere in an election.


3 posted on 08/22/2018 1:57:41 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Kaslin

4 posted on 08/22/2018 1:59:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: palmer; semimojo

Here’s more!


5 posted on 08/22/2018 2:00:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Kaslin

Do good people realize yet what is going to have to happen to remain free? It is not pretty or anything we could have ever wanted.


6 posted on 08/22/2018 2:04:14 PM PDT by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: Da Coyote
I’d bet that I could give an elementary atmospheric absorption quiz to the perps of this “panel” to see how much they really know about CO2 absorption spectra, other gasses that absorb in the IR region, and some extinction lengths, and we’d get around a 1% pass rate.

Gee, I've studied that stuff, and I can't be sure I'd actually pass your quiz. It would be impossible for a non-scientist.

7 posted on 08/22/2018 2:08:32 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: DiogenesLamp; semimojo

Thanks, that’s a good writeup and I’ve always like Stossel. It’s going to be difficult to regulate the social media sites that alter content like he described. If we disallowed alterations they would put the propaganda somewhere else that would be technically allowed. It would be whackamole to try to keep up with that even if we had the government on our side, which it won’t be.


8 posted on 08/22/2018 2:32:46 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: DiogenesLamp; palmer

So now it’s not enough that they have to carry speech that they don’t agree with, they can’t even give their own opinion?


9 posted on 08/22/2018 2:33:32 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Kaslin

>>Private media platforms have every right to decide who can use them. But the platforms are wrong to shut down people with whom they disagree.

Bake the damn cake. None of their publicly stated policies are violated.

Also call the ‘fickless’ FEC as these are actions designed to influence elections by supressing something someone has to say. How much is this contribution worth to the Democrats?


10 posted on 08/22/2018 2:34:48 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: a fool in paradise
 
 
Dennis Prager made an interesting point the other day. He said if these sites like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, etc. came out and said the ONLY speech they wanted on their sites would be from the Left, well, okey dokey then (though that would be ultimately awkward for the ones that are publicly traded), but yet they continue to push the narrative that they are not suppressing any speech, are neutral and objective - which is a lie and fraud.
 
 

11 posted on 08/22/2018 2:56:13 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: lapsus calami

Even still during an election year even commercial broadcasters have to offer a challenger equal time if they have a candidate on the air.


12 posted on 08/22/2018 3:10:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: palmer
It’s going to be difficult to regulate the social media sites that alter content like he described.

I don’t get what you mean about altering content.

All I see is that they provided a link to Wikipedia.

Now, if he’s complaining about the nature of Wiki I get it.

13 posted on 08/22/2018 3:10:57 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: dforest
Do good people realize yet what is going to have to happen to remain free? It is not pretty or anything we could have ever wanted.

See my tagline. I've had it for over 12 years now.

14 posted on 08/22/2018 3:15:45 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: dforest
Do good people realize yet what is going to have to happen to remain free? It is not pretty or anything we could have ever wanted.

See my tagline. I've had it for over 12 years now.

15 posted on 08/22/2018 3:18:06 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Kaslin

Social media are run by leftists. They are using their facilities to suppress truth and promote lies.


16 posted on 08/22/2018 3:52:58 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media deliberately and intentionally chooses to lie, with full awareness and knowledge.)
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To: Travis McGee

Great meme, but what black person is willing to shake hands with a honkey-tonk redneck ofay gray dude these days?


17 posted on 08/22/2018 3:57:24 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: a fool in paradise
 
 
What's happening with the aforementioned sites is they are performing in-kind services in support of agenda driven political groups by attacking, defaming and deplatforming those who are not in agreement with those groups - they have discarded objectivity and aligned with and are now part of a specific political apparatus. There's been people running around this site posting stuff that it's 'their site, their rules' blah blah blah. Maybe once upon a time under normal circumstances - but these are not normal circumstances, not any more. That ship has long sailed.
 
 

18 posted on 08/22/2018 4:49:27 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: lapsus calami

Again, none of the so-called violations violate their rules. If they want to blame fraudulent reporting of violations by leftist users, isn’t that akin to “swatting” by registering false complaints? Is it enough to only restore content by Prager U that was banned or should the harasser see his own account banned?

There are attempts to monetize increased visibility, since only one side has to pay to restore their exposure, isn’t that a shakedown racket?


19 posted on 08/22/2018 4:59:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: a fool in paradise
 
 
their rules
 
One of the constructs they hide behind while committing their suppression and purges, all written in careful legalese.
 
 
There are attempts to monetize increased visibility, since only one side has to pay to restore their exposure, isn’t that a shakedown racket?
 
If not securities fraud. Interesting thing is that we have not heard any proactive stirring from investors and advertisers along that vein, so that is either an acceptable official policy or any thought of such action has itself been suppressed. If they had been operating against the deep state agenda, people would have been getting the Cohen/Manafort treatment left and right - you can bet your net worth on that.
 
 

20 posted on 08/22/2018 6:36:32 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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