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"No bible basis" against homosexuality Institute sets out to prove.
Sunday Times ^ | 19th August 2018 | Stephen O'Brian

Posted on 08/20/2018 7:45:49 PM PDT by Ennis85

A research project by an international Catholic think tank, to be launched today by Mary McAleese, is to challenge the theological evidence for church teaching that homosexual acts are "intrinsically disorder". Plans for the study by Wijngaards Institute for Catholic Research will be unveiled at Trinity College by McAleese, a former president and an outspoken critic of the Vatican. The institute will call on Pope Francis to question official church teaching on same-sex relationships. "I am hoping the project will advance an intelligent and scholarly debate about the warped, damaging, unchristian, unscientific, fake gender ideology which currently underpins Catholic teaching on LGBTI issues," McAleese told the Sunday Times.

A spokeswoman for the Institute said that tomorrow's event would address "the exclusion of gay and lesbian families from the World Meeting of Families" which it argues furthers the church's "marginalisation and demonization and" of LGBT Catholics and their relationships. The launch takes place a day before the World Meeting of Families opens in Dublin's RDS. The week culminates in a visit by Pope Francis. On Sunday, he will say mass for up to 500,00 people in the Phoenix park. The Wijngaards research will provide a critical evaluation of the arguments behind official Catholic teaching which dates from 1986 Vatican document Homosexualitatis Problema, according to Luca Badini Confalonieri, director of research at the Institute.

"Since [then], however, biology and genetics have made some progress towards understanding the causes of homosexuality. The same can be said of biblical studies, on what the Bible affirms with regard to the meanings purposes of human sexuality and sexual diversity," writes Confalonari in a preliminary paper on the research . "The question of homosexual acts is sometimes regarded as settled from the earliest days of Christianity...A process of debate and consultation would be tantamount to putting this in doubt and so, no such process has been initiated or encouraged by the Vatican. The reports aims at filling that gap." Confalonieri said the argument in the Vatican document that homosexual acts were "intrinsically disordered" was based on a belief that biological procreation was an "essential and indispensable finality" of each act of sexual intercourse. This was based on a "mistaken biological "fact" that each and every act of sexual intercourse has a procreative "finality" and "significance".

"The teaching that same-sex sexual acts are "intrinsically evil" always and everywhere is not reevealed in the Bible," he said. "Nor has it ever been shown to be essential for the truth of the Christian revelation. Accordingly, it cannot become the object of an infallible definition.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bible; gay; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; ireland; lastdays; lgbt; prophecy; research; vatican
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To: raiderboy

Romans Chapter 1 vs 25-32 Clear and in New Testament~


41 posted on 08/20/2018 10:00:04 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Born in NC, then PA, NY,WV, NM, SC, and FL & back God/Freedom=Priority!)
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To: Ennis85
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

42 posted on 08/20/2018 10:00:49 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Ennis85

Catholic think tank works to justify homosexuality.


43 posted on 08/20/2018 10:16:49 PM PDT by NoLibZone (If Putin flies to Mexico, crosses the border illegally, he can vote in San Francisco.)
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To: blueplum

But even if those words had never been written, homosexual inclinations would still be disordered and homosexual behavior immoral.


44 posted on 08/20/2018 10:58:46 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

‘it must be argued that sterile sex is natural.’

interesting to see how that argument could possibly be advanced, except as natural aberration; sterile sex may in fact occasionally happen in nature, but quite clearly is not the purpose of it...


45 posted on 08/20/2018 11:08:06 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Ennis85

There is no such thing as homosexuality, which is why the Bible describes it referentially rather than defines it existentially: It is fake, done as a man lies with a woman.

It is homoeroticism: the narcissistic fetishization of a person of the same sex.


46 posted on 08/20/2018 11:34:13 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: IrishBrigade

Yes. But to dare suggest that the purpose of the reproductive organs is reproduction raises a hue and cry these days.


47 posted on 08/20/2018 11:55:41 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Army Air Corps

“So, they aren’t going to actually read the Bible, then.”

With careful editing it comes out just how they want it.


48 posted on 08/21/2018 12:20:23 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Cedar; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; Lera; 444Flyer; null and void; firebrand; Maudeen; ...

Yep, itching ears.

Last Days.

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49 posted on 08/21/2018 1:02:43 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Songcraft



50 posted on 08/21/2018 1:06:28 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: blueplum

Thanks for explaining due penalty.


51 posted on 08/21/2018 1:28:52 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Skywise

“Well JESUS never said homosexuality was bad so it’s perfectly ok”
Actually, Jesus said he came to preach the Word (O.T) and it was not to be changed one iota or one tittle.


52 posted on 08/21/2018 3:11:41 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Ennis85

Don’t reprobate minds ever get tired?


53 posted on 08/21/2018 3:13:04 AM PDT by Ikeon (Soylent green is. . . PEOPLE!)
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To: Songcraft

The little faggot is out of uniform. He should be wearing the same little dress as the ladies.


54 posted on 08/21/2018 3:19:18 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Ennis85
Lets look closer at who ( mary Mcaleese) is driving this research. Former president of Ireland with a grudge against the pope and the catholic church, also claims infant baptism is child abuse. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-45253045
55 posted on 08/21/2018 3:24:11 AM PDT by Ikeon (Soylent green is. . . PEOPLE!)
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To: Ikeon

She is a disgrace. She’s taking advantage of the Pope’s visit to Ireland to get publicity for her anti-Catholic organization,


56 posted on 08/21/2018 3:55:03 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: fruser1
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed to make room for more lucrative taxable income.

And oil rights....

57 posted on 08/21/2018 4:10:31 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: Ennis85
The term used was not "intrinsically evil". The phrase was "intrinsically disordered" (Catechism, section 2357). There's a difference.
58 posted on 08/21/2018 4:22:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It rubs the rainbow on it's skin or it gets the diversity again!")
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To: Ennis85

Genesis Chapters 18-19, Sodom and Gomorrah.


59 posted on 08/21/2018 4:43:13 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: trebb

What oil income?


60 posted on 08/21/2018 4:44:38 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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