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The Second Civil War in the US
Eastern Michigan University ^ | April 18, 2018 | Jack Minzey

Posted on 08/19/2018 6:23:51 AM PDT by econjack

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To: econjack

It’s amazing after just 8 years a corrupt outgoing President and losing candidate from the same party using the corrupt Government he created to destroy the elected President of another party


41 posted on 08/19/2018 7:22:49 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: lonevoice

Here is another great article!


42 posted on 08/19/2018 7:23:34 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: CodeToad

Another good explanation.

I’m not as eloquently spoken as some. I tend to wield a Warhammer when I’m talking heh.

I’ve always stated that war was about consolidating power in DC. Then the usual suspects come out yelling about slavery.


43 posted on 08/19/2018 7:27:10 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Lee'sGhost

Lee’sGhost wrote:

“Again, you’ve got to have the first “civil war” before you can have the second one. Technically a civil war involves an attempt to take over the government. The South never attempted that. It attempted to act on the belief that their states were sovereign and had every right to form their own union or confederacy. At no time did they attempt to take over the existing government.

Words are supposed to have meaning. The historians from the side that won the War Between the States termed Civil War because they don’t want people to remember or to know the truth. That it wasn’t a “civil war.”””

Very very important post! Many thanks!


44 posted on 08/19/2018 7:30:17 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Pravious
So, yeah, the Civil War has, in effect, started. Does any reasonable person think the left is EVER going to see the error of their ways and suddenly begin acting like responsible citizens again? I sure don’t. And, given that, it’s inevitable that our country either breaks apart at some point, or things get violent. I’m not saying I want either of those things - I just don’t see all of this leading any other way.

How many of them are there? How many of them will be willing to fight, or simply throw monkey wrenches in the works when we win?

We are close to winning. Another Supreme Court justice and maintaining majorities in the House and Senate in the mid-terms, and we will have effectively won, at least for several years, just as the left came very, very close to a decisive win with a Hillary election.

There was opposition to FDR, but it never amounted to much. He effectively won the FDR revolution when he got re-elected in 1936.

If we break the back of the media cartel, as seems to have happened/is ongoing, how many effective leftists will there be? How will they fight? Their major power for the last 50 years has been their control of the media. They do not control the military or most of the police.

We can still lose. I think the odds favor us. If the Left is able to silence us on the Internet and social media, it becomes much harder to predict.

45 posted on 08/19/2018 7:34:22 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: econjack
"There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice."

The left has swept that down the memory hole; it's as if it never happened, along with the shooting of the Dallas cops by the BLM supporters.

Yesterday in Seattle there was a small demonstration by Patriot Prayer and - I think - The Proud Boys, and - as usual - they were far outnumbered by counter-protesters. Several of the counter-protesters (including a former co-worker of mine) were interviewed on TV, and they all mentioned the need to "fight back" and "protect themselves," citing the Charlottesville road-rage death as their justification. The left's own violence was totally forgotten.
46 posted on 08/19/2018 7:41:17 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: beancounter13

It depends on your perspective. The north most certainly looked at it as a civil war. Lincoln repeatedly used the phrase “civil war.” He used it in the Gettysburg Address. It was common phraseology for the war in the north and they won. The victors write the history books. It’s real easy to re-write history 150 years later and say “well, technically that wasn’t a civil war.” Bottom line is this-they thought it was at the time. Those people LIVING THROUGH IT said it was. So, you and I can rewrite history if we want, but it doesn’t change what they said it was. They said it was a civil war...which is why we call it the Civil War.


47 posted on 08/19/2018 7:42:07 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: marktwain

“we will have effectively won”

To what end? The GOP has proven to be the eGOP, and Trump is allowing the democrats (Sessions, Mueller, et al.) to run roughshod all over the people, the constitution, the courts, the law, and himself. The criminals are getting away as he play Kabuki Theater and runs out the clock.


48 posted on 08/19/2018 7:47:21 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!)
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To: snoringbear
Wrong. Not even close. Definition of coup d'état plural coups d'état or coups d'etat play \ˌkü-(ˌ)dā-ˈtä, ˈkü-(ˌ)dā-ˌtä, -də-\ : a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics; especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group a military coup d'état of the dictator
49 posted on 08/19/2018 7:51:47 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: econjack

True, but the chip is still a chip (ir)regardless of the wind. ;-)

“Hopefully” is another such example.


50 posted on 08/19/2018 7:55:02 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: econjack

Mark for later reading


51 posted on 08/19/2018 7:55:29 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: Lee'sGhost

“When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another...”

The “Civil War” was actually a war for independence just like the Revolutionary War. Lincoln became the new King George.


52 posted on 08/19/2018 8:00:12 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: EagleUSA

“No accountability — no law!!!”

Jeff Sessions fail.


53 posted on 08/19/2018 8:02:46 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bryanw92

You’re absolutely right. We are currently in Civil War 1 where their side is shooting and we are hiding behind Pres. Trump to take care of this all on his own. Wake up people. Put on your Red Arm Bands and Lock N Load. When, not if, we start shooting there are bulls eyes on so many judges, reporters, commentators, Senators & Congressmen, and in general all politicians all the way down the ladder who wants to annihilate our Constitution. BTW the red tennis wrist bans work pretty good. I even carry a blue one in case I’m in trouble.


54 posted on 08/19/2018 8:04:23 AM PDT by FreedomFtr ((Still fighting for Freedom... and now here at home))
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To: Lee'sGhost

Right. And the term “CIVIL war” is a misnomer. It may have been a civic (internal) war but it certainly was not civil.

Technically, the Mueller Inquisition is a soft coup or conspiracy (similar in history to some of the ancient Roman conspiracies (Cataline Conspiracy, etc.). It is also a false conspiracy because the FBI’s goal is to not only protect Hillary, for whom they did their plotting, but to protect themselves from accountability for doing the political bidding of Democrats. Like all cops, they will close ranks and defend themselves against politicians who threaten their careers and perks. The way FBI elites view the issue is that they should not suffer firings for doing the dirty work of politicians.

The ongoing conflict over Trump’s election is a conflict between the two middle classes: the Knowledge Class, dependent on government outlays and regulation for its existence, and the Business Class, dependent on Capitalism. This conflict is an insurrection or mutiny that can lead to revolution if not put down.


55 posted on 08/19/2018 8:04:41 AM PDT by WayneLusvardi (It's more complex than it might seem)
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To: NELSON111

You mentioned Lincoln, but Jefferson Davis didn’t call it a Civil War.


56 posted on 08/19/2018 8:05:04 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!)
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To: Pravious

“So, yeah, the Civil War has, in effect, started”

All the necessary prerequisites have been laid down. The white hot hatred is there. Extermination camps would not cause an iota of guilty conscience. All the fault of democrat provocateurs.


57 posted on 08/19/2018 8:07:16 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: FreedomFtr

>>Put on your Red Arm Bands and Lock N Load.

Yep. It’s time to become they threat they say we are when they are trying to silence us, disarm us, and kick us out of society.

Not a big fan of arm bands though. MAGA hats seem to fire them up. We need to show them a MAGA hat flood.


58 posted on 08/19/2018 8:07:18 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
"..and hopefully live to see the Clintons, hanging like Mussolini or even better see them get the Nicolae Ceaușescu treatment." That day would forever more become a national holiday on a par with the 4th of July!
59 posted on 08/19/2018 8:11:37 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: NELSON111

It was a civil war that was not civil. It may have been a civic war but not a civil war.


60 posted on 08/19/2018 8:14:05 AM PDT by WayneLusvardi (It's more complex than it might seem)
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