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Why the Pledge of Allegiance Is Un-American
FEE ^ | 15 Aug 2018 | Tom Mullen

Posted on 08/15/2018 2:47:11 PM PDT by rey

The "one nation, indivisible" referred to in the pledge is not only unconstitutional, it's contrary to the entire idea of the America the Founders sought to create.

An Atlanta, Georgia, charter school announced last week its intention to discontinue the practice of having students stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance during its schoolwide morning meetings at the beginning of each school day, opting to allow students to recite the pledge in their classrooms instead. Predictably, conservatives were immediately triggered by this “anti-American” decision, prompting the school to reverse its decision shortly after.

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To: rey

And then we added, “under God,” and it changed from a Marxist chant to a pledge for American exceptionalism.

Also, the Foundation for Economic Education, founded in 1946 is a libertarian economic think-tank. And libertarians have proven to about as useful to conservatives as teats on a boar hog.


21 posted on 08/15/2018 3:28:21 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: rey

Quick research turned up this:

http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm

According to that link the original Pledge of Allegiance was actually written by a Socialist. . .go figure ;)


22 posted on 08/15/2018 3:29:20 PM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: rey

Thanks for posting.


23 posted on 08/15/2018 3:30:38 PM PDT by all the best
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To: New Jersey Realist

Best reply. And YES! If only we could get rid of the ridiculous number of agencies that rule over us.


24 posted on 08/15/2018 3:32:46 PM PDT by rey
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To: mewzilla

“And to the republic for Richard Stands.....” What we thought it said


25 posted on 08/15/2018 4:03:41 PM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: rey

I think it should be replaced with a pledge to the US Constitution.


26 posted on 08/15/2018 4:04:59 PM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“is” and “are” are verbs. You meant verb, not adverb.


27 posted on 08/15/2018 4:07:22 PM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: rey
because....a Christian socialist wrote it for a kid's magazine?

Here's Francis Bellamy's original version:

I pledge allegiance to my flag and the Republic for which it stands—one Nation indivisible—with liberty and justice for all.

It was written for the 1892 Columbus Day celebration. Which brings up the point that ol' Chris is now an official un-person who is remembered for committing genocide on the Carib Indians, who themselves inspired the words Barbecue and Cannibal.

The kids were supposed to recite the pledge with a nifty Roman Salute, which unfortunately now looks identical to the arm salute that Hitler Youth and Hitler Adults used some 40 years later.

28 posted on 08/15/2018 4:11:55 PM PDT by Pelham (Yankeefa, cleansing America one statue at a time.)
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To: rey

As a conservative I agree. I say the pledge whenever I’m at a place it’s said. But it is socialist/communist. It is not what the founders had in mind as you’ve pointed out.


29 posted on 08/15/2018 4:13:37 PM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: plain talk

The charter school is never mentioned...could it be Muslim


30 posted on 08/15/2018 4:16:58 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WINNING! !!)
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To: rey

This is how to destroy a country.


31 posted on 08/15/2018 4:22:37 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: rey

Whoever wrote this has obviously not read any of the available documents written by the founders. In just 1, The Federalist Papers it is pointed out exactly why the first and second ammendments are there. Your twisted description doesn’t fit the facts.

Nice try though.


32 posted on 08/15/2018 4:28:32 PM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: mewzilla; rey

Rey, please watch and listen!


33 posted on 08/15/2018 4:30:13 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Boycott The NFL! Molon Labe! Oathkeeper)
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To: rey
What's your DUmpster Website screen name?
34 posted on 08/15/2018 4:32:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: rey

OK I recognize your tilt, nedxt you will fall into the Articles of Confederation and all of that then into the Federalist non federalist mosh pit culminating with Lincoln and using the Articles to hold the States in the union ...and on and on

Some Dr. Rivera or other name has been pushing this rock uphill trying to set the stage for California to secede or divide itself and all kinds of other mischief an non sense

Define the difference between a Nation and United States Rey Rey

On this day in 1776, the Continental Congress formally declares the name of the new nation to be the “United States” of America. This replaced the term “United Colonies,” which had been in general use.

In the Congressional declaration dated September 9, 1776, the delegates wrote, “That in all continental commissions, and other instruments, where, heretofore, the words ‘United Colonies’ have been used, the stile be altered for the future to the “United States.”

A resolution by Richard Henry Lee, which had been presented to Congress on June 7 and approved on July 2, 1776, issued the resolve, “That these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States….” As a result, John Adams thought July 2 would be celebrated as “the most memorable epoch in the history of America.” Instead, the day has been largely forgotten in favor of July 4, when Jefferson’s edited Declaration of Independence was adopted. That document also states, “That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES.” However, Lee began with the line, while Jefferson saved it for the middle of his closing paragraph.

By September, the Declaration of Independence had been drafted, signed, printed and sent to Great Britain. What Congress had declared to be true on paper in July was clearly the case in practice, as Patriot blood was spilled against the British on the battlefields of Boston, Montreal, Quebec and New York. Congress had created a country from a cluster of colonies and the nation’s new name reflected that reality.

And in 1789 the Constitution was ratified and the AOC passed into history


35 posted on 08/15/2018 4:33:50 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: Fiji Hill

“Maybe the link was to the Antifa site:

No borders! No wall!
No USA at all!”

This article sounds like the perfect Anarchist screed. In Italy they had states that fought wars with each other.


36 posted on 08/15/2018 4:38:11 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar
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To: rey

I have refused to recite it for years for exactly this reason.

Oh by the way....it was written in the late 19th century by a New England Christian SOCIALIST.

The whole indivisible part is indeed not what the Founders intended. They themselves were after all, secessionists who believed government derives its legitimacy from the consent of the governed and when a government lost that consent, the had a right to overthrow or separate themselves from that government.


37 posted on 08/15/2018 4:44:05 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: rey
In fact, it is precisely the trend towards “one nation” that has caused American politics to become so rancorous, to the point of boiling over into violence, over the course of the last several decades. This continent is inhabited by a multitude of very different cultures, which can coexist peacefully if left to govern themselves. But as the “federal” government increasingly seeks to impose a one-size-fits-all legal framework over people who never agreed to give it that power, the resistance is going to get more and more strident. If there is any chance to achieve peace among America’s warring factions, a return to a more truly federal system is likely the only way.

Whoever wrote this is mixing up very different ideas of federalism and secession. Assuming that federalism and limited government mean that one can opt out of the country at any time for any reason isn't likely to produce "peace among America's warring factions." Thinking of one's country as a patchwork of different autonomous cultures is not the recipe for peaceful coexistence that he thinks it is. Without some idea of national unity -- and that does not mean national uniformity or total homogeneity -- the whole country could well fall apart.

38 posted on 08/15/2018 4:45:14 PM PDT by x
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To: rey

Bull flipping squat.
That is all.


39 posted on 08/15/2018 5:10:12 PM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: Pelham

Our nation fared decently well without the pledge for her first 100+ years.


40 posted on 08/15/2018 5:16:04 PM PDT by lightman (Obama's legacy in 13 letters: BLM, ISIS, & ANTIFA. New axis of evil.)
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