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Groundsman, 46, ... awarded $289M by jury that found weedkiller Roundup DID give him lymphoma ....
U.K. Daily Mail ^ | August 8, 2018 | MIA DE GRAAF HEALTH EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

Posted on 08/10/2018 9:03:27 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham

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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

[[Therefore, it is concluded that the use of Roundup herbicide does not result in adverse effects on development, reproduction, or endocrine systems in humans and other mammals.]]

But yet the plaintiff’s ‘expert’ declared that it did cause cancer- wonder how he determined that it was from roundup and not from something else?


41 posted on 08/11/2018 12:09:21 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Paul R.

Yeah.

Two dead goats who were healthy as hell, the week before they stuck their heads through the fence and nibbled on the poisoned weeds.

Wanna see their graves?

Where he sprayed, *4 years ago*, still won’t grow hardly anything.

There are absolutely no bugs living there now at all and the wild rabbits avoid it like the plague.

It’s still mostly a dead zone.

Who should I believe?

A greedy corporation determined to preserve their profits, at the expense of all else, that hires their own “researchers” to “prove” its safety, or my own eyes?

You can think whatever you want but I consider that crap coming near *my* world to be chemical warfare.


42 posted on 08/11/2018 12:20:48 AM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

“several regulatory agencies and scientific institutions worldwide”

Probably the same people who approve and applaud the antidepressants that ALL the mass killing shooters were taking.

Sheesh.

Companies [and their flunkies] lie.

Wake up.


43 posted on 08/11/2018 12:23:03 AM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: supremedoctrine

Apple autocorrect that I didn’t check.


44 posted on 08/11/2018 12:24:09 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Sa-teef

“Funny” thing is, that when home users and state highway workers spray that stuff, at first, nothing looks odd.

Then, in a day or two, the sprayed plants turn a positively Lovecraftian, sickly bright orange before dying.

I see it happening all the time, up and down the interstates.

..and in my lane.

I had *no* idea it had been sprayed and the goats ate through the fence, as they always did...and then the deathly color appeared.

By then, it was too late.


45 posted on 08/11/2018 12:27:08 AM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

It probably is a neurotoxin. I’d err on that side because without our brains we aren’t much.

https://detoxproject.org/glyphosate/neurological-disease/


46 posted on 08/11/2018 12:28:51 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: willk

I do not know round up caused his cancer. I couldn’t know. I just want more info about glyphosate to be better known. There are lots of studies and people need to weigh all the choices.


47 posted on 08/11/2018 12:34:54 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Salamander

I read the article @ your link. So... We have to feed 7.6 billion people using true organic farming...


48 posted on 08/11/2018 12:35:09 AM PDT by Paul R.
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To: Salamander

My dad walked around his property with a bottle of Round Up in his hand. Spraying any weed he found. Knowing him, he probably chucked it in the garage and came in and made himself a sandwich without bothering to wash his hands. His last 7 years were spent with no ability to speak, in an Alzheimer’s toddlerhood.


49 posted on 08/11/2018 12:37:33 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: miniTAX

I am ignorant, and filled with semi-knowledge, but I am not, as you claim, TOTALLY ignorant. And I have done plenty of research on the brain, what gets beyond the blood brain barrier (an awful lot), and neurotoxicity in our human environment today.

I also believe in the Hippocrstic Oath for many situations. First, do no harm. The products we use for “convenience” are not sold for our health but to make money. Therefore it is really up to us to fully investigate whether these products are harmful. There is too much evidence that herbicides like this DO INDEED affect our health.


50 posted on 08/11/2018 12:41:04 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

‘Halla, the Dobe pup who died at 8 months, was born in a gutted travel trailer full of Roundup jugs, [and other lawn and garden products] where her mother lived out *her* life.

She, and those of her litter that survived to 8 weeks, were all severely hydrocephalic.

She was a mess for all of her short life and died in screaming seizures.

But I’m sure that “proves nothing”, despite several vets, including horribly expensive neuro specialists, could find no “reason” the litter was so hideously afflicted, short of an “external, toxic influence” on the pregnant dam.

:’(


51 posted on 08/11/2018 12:45:44 AM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: Yaelle

So...how many arguing in favor of Roundup would spray it on their lawns and then let their kids play on it?

Yeah.

Thought so.


52 posted on 08/11/2018 12:47:12 AM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: Salamander
My sympathies for your fine animals. They are an inquisitive lot and probably wandered over to see what was going on?

Your irresponsible neighbor should have engaged his brain and given fair warning what he was doing.

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My brother the chemist has told me before that the most dangerous area of any home is under the kitchen sink where solvents, cleaners and herbicides are stored without due care being taken to safeguard them. And small children sometimes pay the price for the reckless behavior of their parents.

Follow safe use instructions on the labels always when using any chemical in the home or on the farm.

53 posted on 08/11/2018 12:56:59 AM PDT by Sa-teef
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To: Sa-teef

Poor goats were victims of the grass-is-always-greener syndrome.
Weeds outside the fence were always preferred to the pasture, inside.

I have *none* of those things under the sink or anywhere else in the house.

Every product is home made and non-toxic.

I am just about to clean, deodorize and sanitize the floor/etc with a mix of baking soda, hydrogen peroxide and hot water.

Works like a miracle.

You should try it sometime.

You’ll never know how secretly dirty your floors are until you do.

Then there are the myriad “home deodorizers” rampant on the shelves.

Nearly all of them are patented and their ingredients “secret”.

Independent investigators have analyzed them and found chemicals no sane person would willingly subject themselves or their families to.

Formaldehyde is the *least* of the hazards found therein.

Scentsy: Smell great. Die early.

Not much of a slogan, I’ll grant you.


54 posted on 08/11/2018 1:16:59 AM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: Yaelle
because without our brains we aren’t much

Hey, it's worked for liberals all this time.

/rimshot

55 posted on 08/11/2018 1:18:30 AM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: Texan

I have weeds and vines that eat Roundup. I’m trying to get my flamethrower license now. Nothing else works (can’t use dynamite in my small backyard. The neighbors might complain about the noise.


56 posted on 08/11/2018 1:21:30 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Salamander

That REALLY sounds like way more was in the mix than std. Roundup. I use Roundup at fairly high strength on my Mom’s brick patio & brick sidewalks and the weeds & grass are dead in a week... and then new growth is back in another month or so. So I spray it again. The ants residing there seem unaffected. Ditto the results for the weeds & grass that grow in our gravel driveway or pretty much anything else I’ve ever used it on — exception being if I hit an area in, oh, say late July, and we get no rain until late Sept., said area will be pretty sparse until the following spring. Now, poison ivy along the trail @ the east end “woods” of our property takes several months to come back, but usually other stuff like hickory trees planted by squirrels replaces it. I more often use 2-4-D on the ivy, anyway.

The weeds in a small soil area (not in the woods) that I used Roundup on last early-June “died”, but now has 2 -3 ft. high grass & weeds in it. We can compare pics if you’d like!)

That field across the road from us: In fallow years, it grows (mostly grass) just fine. But that same vegetation is heavily suppressed in the corn & soybean years due to those years’ Roundup sprayings.

You can blame Monsanto (easier?), but I think it’s your neighbor at fault... Roundup alone, at anything close to recommended mix ratios, just DOESN’T cause even a 1 year dead zone, much less 4 years.


57 posted on 08/11/2018 1:24:18 AM PDT by Paul R.
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To: Salamander

Well, if I spray Roundup on my lawn, after a week or so the kids will only have dead grass to play on, so, no, I would not do that.

When I do use it (as previously described) I follow the label instructions. I’m not paranoid, but I do have a healthy respect...


58 posted on 08/11/2018 1:30:45 AM PDT by Paul R.
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Did he follow the instructions on the label?

If you don’t pay attention to the manufacturer’s instructions for using a chemical don’t complain if you get sick


59 posted on 08/11/2018 1:36:05 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Salamander
[and other lawn and garden products]

Much more likely those or, again, something added to the Roundup...

60 posted on 08/11/2018 1:36:24 AM PDT by Paul R.
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