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Equally troubling is the further development of what we might call a two-tier America, based on immigration status and economic opportunity.


As an American citizen I have certain rights an privileges that a illegal alien does not. Don't like the American system don't sneak into our country.

1 posted on 07/30/2018 6:59:58 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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As to the title.... YAY!


2 posted on 07/30/2018 7:02:29 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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Equally troubling is the further development of what we might call a two-tier America, based on immigration status and economic opportunity.

Doesn't trouble me one bit when the lower tier is illegal immigrants and they are denied any kind of legal status. Typical conflation of illegal versus legal immigration as well.

3 posted on 07/30/2018 7:03:06 PM PDT by dirtboy
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Illegal aliens are not undocumented, they are fraudulently documented foreigners.


4 posted on 07/30/2018 7:04:50 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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The author can blame Muslims.

Every time he passes through a TSA search he can blame Muslims.

All the increased security is because of Muslims.

5 posted on 07/30/2018 7:05:11 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Need that South Park caption, “THIS IS WHAT CALIFORNIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE”


6 posted on 07/30/2018 7:05:41 PM PDT by ksm1
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This is all part of The Patriot Act, and it is nationwide....not just California.

IF you don’t want the Real ID, I don’t know if you can get a regular style driver’s license.

Keeping in mind that California & Nevada (where I live) are giving driver’s licenses to illegal invaders, I don’t mind having the real ID.

It is much harder for women, tho, than men. I have to find every piece of marriage & divorce papers I can because my name changed 2 times. I changed it back both times to my maiden name, but I am NOT sure where all those records are. My Nevada license doesn’t expire until a couple more years, but by 2020, we all have to have such ID to fly. I CAN get a passport which will cover me to fly, and I don’t know that will happen when my current license expires.


7 posted on 07/30/2018 7:05:55 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Always a false premise that is sine qua non to the story. "Troubling?" "Troubling" to whom? Only illegals and their supporters, not to law abiding citizens.
8 posted on 07/30/2018 7:05:57 PM PDT by Fungi
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I do agree that the two-tier setup is bad for America.

Kick the illegals out, and have one tier. Citizens and legal immigrants.

9 posted on 07/30/2018 7:06:25 PM PDT by CatOwner
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I didn't know this was coming. I can't believe CA isn't trying to figure out how to prevent this and make itself a "Anti-Real ID" Sanctuary state or figuring out a way for illegal aliens to get the Real ID.

10 posted on 07/30/2018 7:06:45 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ('Kill'-google,TWITR,FACEBK,WaPo,Hollywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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Just got mine in Massachusetts.I got the enhanced one...had to appear in person with passport,among other documents,in hand.But here there are two options...the one I got (requiring proof of legal residence) and one that basically only requires your word of honor.

There can be no doubt that the latter will be all you'll need to vote,collect welfare,etc here.

11 posted on 07/30/2018 7:06:58 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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Boo Hoo!!!!

If California and the other Democrat run States had not messed up the system, we would not have to resort to these measures.

Excuses are over. Only Citizens of the United States of America can vote or travel without showing proof of their country of origin.


13 posted on 07/30/2018 7:08:54 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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The left is against showing some evidence of citizenship to get a driver’s license.

Yet it makes me wonder.

Places like San Francisco are allowing/registering illegals to vote. So how do they sort out the illegals from US citizens during state and federal elections if they did not ask some proof of nationality when registering to vote?


14 posted on 07/30/2018 7:13:49 PM PDT by llevrok (Vote! While it's still legal.)
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Reality divides us into citizens, legal non-citizens, and illegal non-citizens. Real ID just allows that reality to be verified. Human beings have a right to protect their families, themselves, and all that they've worked for.
15 posted on 07/30/2018 7:16:07 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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Back to 2nd grade:

Man and Woman
His and Hers
Male and Female
Legal and Illegal


16 posted on 07/30/2018 7:18:09 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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Obama and the Democrats had two years to fix this if they didn’t like it. But they wasted those two years shoving a health care system down our throats that most people didn’t want. And then the voters had their say about who controls the House.


17 posted on 07/30/2018 7:19:26 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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Russian collusion is the reason we need to #VoterID.


19 posted on 07/30/2018 7:23:56 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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I’ve heard from people who say that trying to get the I.d. in person is no walk in the park either.


24 posted on 07/30/2018 7:38:25 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no gstandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Last time I went to the DMV in California, everyone there was there for a Real ID. Didn’t hear English until I was back in the car with KFI playing.


27 posted on 07/30/2018 7:46:08 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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Very sad that states are issuing ID to illegal aliens instead of turning them over for deportation. At least Real ID is a step toward differentiating who is and is not a US citizen.


29 posted on 07/30/2018 7:57:11 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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F-them and this ID crap!!!!

I WAS BORN IN AMERICA FROM 2 AMERICAN BORN CITIZENS !!!


32 posted on 07/30/2018 8:05:34 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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