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Gov. Brown asks Trump for federal aid to help Carr Fire victims
KRON 4 NEWS ^ | 07-28-2018 | Vince Cestone

Posted on 07/28/2018 12:33:42 PM PDT by Kevin in California

California Gov. Jerry Brown is asking President Donald Trump for federal aid to help Carr Fire victims.

The wildfire has charred nearly 45,000 acres and is only 3 percent contained on Friday night.


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To: DoughtyOne

Dept of Interior
National Park Service
National Forest Service


61 posted on 07/28/2018 2:51:14 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: granite

The CARR fire in N California, near Lake Shasta was NOT started by an arsonist.

It was started when someone driving thru the forest near Whiskeytown blew a tire & drove on the rim, and then pulled over onto dry grass with a hot catalytic convertor.

The arsonist who started 12 fires is down by Mountain Center, near San Diego.


62 posted on 07/28/2018 2:54:03 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: cabojoe

Be safe.


63 posted on 07/28/2018 2:58:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: DoughtyOne

In the 90’s, Clinton & Bruce Babbitt, Sec of Interior, closed down forest roads & actually placed barriers cross them. They also dug holes behind those barriers so fire trucks could NOT enter when needed.

I know this happened. I worked for a welding shop in Nevada City, near Grass Valley, in Calif for a number of years & he made plenty of those gates for them to erect & keep out people AND FIRE CREWS. Saw those gates.


64 posted on 07/28/2018 2:59:01 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

Agreed...

Here’s an interesting article that affected cattle grazing on lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management.

Hundreds of cattle lost, and now 60,000 acres burned.

Even grasslands can be problematic, and this reveals how misguided it is thinking just cutting down swaths of forest will great fire-breaks.

Here in California I’ve had ash fall on my property from fires up to 30 miles away. While the ash wasn’t still smoldering, it give some idea how far embers might travel, granted perhaps a few miles.

Heated air created by these fires create a weather system all their own. It’s amazing to watch a massive weather pattern build from these fires.

Smoke and ash can rise tens of thousands of feet, and blow far far away.


65 posted on 07/28/2018 3:04:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: ridesthemiles

BTW: Here’s that link...

https://idahostatejournal.com/news/local/raging-east-idaho-wildfire-kills-hundreds-of-cattle-threatens-structures/article_a534b322-be6e-5486-9008-8b561e9e1f62.html


66 posted on 07/28/2018 3:05:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: ridesthemiles

I remember that.

In areas that are accessible, I don’t have a problem with allowing lumber companies go in and harvest downed trees.

As you mention though, roads have to be open.

Of course the Clinton/Gore green squad was out in force, so they shut down such efforts. Can’t have folks logging our beautiful downed trees that will just rot away if not harvested...

There are areas where there are no roads accessing massive acreage of the forests too.


67 posted on 07/28/2018 3:07:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: ridesthemiles

Sometimes it’s just lightening too. I’m sure you knew that, but thought I’d mention it.

You are just addressing contemporary fires too, and the issue of which were arson related.


68 posted on 07/28/2018 3:09:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Send them 1000 tons of soybeans!


69 posted on 07/28/2018 3:15:22 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: granite

It may be National Forest but California moonbats are a big part of the reason we can no longer manage the forests properly. They had to hug every tree to death, now the fuel loading is so high every wildfire turns into a conflagration. I’m not saying I don’t support relief but let’s properly ascess responsibility.


70 posted on 07/28/2018 3:18:56 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: DoughtyOne

It would be a massive undertaking to cut swaths through all our forest on federal land. And then you’d have to go back over them each year to clear them off again, as brush built up behind you.


When I lived in Cali, that’s exactly what was being done. How massive is the undertaking of rebuilding these towns and people’s lives every year?


71 posted on 07/28/2018 3:26:38 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: ridesthemiles

I am in the Cranston Fire near Mountain Center, but at this point, what difference does it make?


72 posted on 07/28/2018 3:40:42 PM PDT by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: ridesthemiles

I am in the Cranston Fire near Mountain Center, but at this point, what difference does it make?


73 posted on 07/28/2018 3:40:43 PM PDT by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Kevin in California

So will Trump pull an obambi, or do the right thing. Hmmm.


74 posted on 07/28/2018 3:50:47 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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To: Kevin in California

“Let me see if I got this right. You give the President and the WH the middle finger then you have the udacity to ask them for aid? Reaaly? “

While I understand the sentiment, you should understand that the people affected by this tragedy voted Trump by about 70%. As high as any region in the nation.

Only the feds have the big resources...men, planes, equipment etc. to handle a disaster of this scale.

Already, as of 0500 this morning, over 500 homes have been burned to the ground. Easily over $100 million in property damage, not to mention the loss of 10s of thousands of acres of wild lands. And trees. And wildlife.

Asshole.


75 posted on 07/28/2018 4:05:50 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: freedumb2003

“I feel badly for the firefighters but this is a CALIFORNIA issue created by CALIFORNIA bad fire prevention policies and should be paid for by CALIFORNIA funds.”

No.

It was MOSTLY the US EPA that has caused this, and other catastrophic wildfires in CA and the West.

They will not allow livestock or humans to clear the forests of underbrush. If you’re within a quarter mile of any stream or river, clearing and livestock are off limits.

That’s nearly 100% of Northern California. Going west of Redding you can travel 100 miles, 80 miles wide, and see a stream every 1/4 mile. Or so.

It’s all deeply cut rolling hills, or mountains. All Forest.


76 posted on 07/28/2018 4:11:34 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: granite

“Most of the fire is burning in the National Forest. It is Federal Land and belongs to all of US.”

These people don’t care.

Their emotions have made them stupid.


77 posted on 07/28/2018 4:13:21 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: RoseofTexas
"Lemme see here, they pay illegals 500 bucs a month for the hell of it.. right?! $ 500x1,000,000 + illegals could sure help a lot fighting those🔥! " Your stupid is showing. A single small city in this state is doing that. And the money is 100% private donations.
78 posted on 07/28/2018 4:15:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MrEdd

“..fish moment(???)”

Sorry that you haven’t the courage to fight for your (former) state.

It’s fish or fight with me.

I’m not letting a bunch of socialist leftists or hordes of below the borders illegals drive me from my state. I’m staying along with Free Republic, Devine Nunes, and a whole slew of Conservatives I know in California.

Does Texas know what they got when you moved (fled?) from California? The rest of us aren’t looking for an easy way out. We’re staying here to protect our homes.


79 posted on 07/28/2018 4:16:58 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: MrEdd

The rules that cause these conflagrations are FEDERAL rules, via BLM, DFW and EPA.


80 posted on 07/28/2018 4:17:13 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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