Posted on 07/27/2018 5:28:26 AM PDT by Kaslin
Current thinking is that if the no-carry states are forced to issue open carry permits, or even better yet, allow open carry with no permit, they will eventually wake up and "steer" people toward concealed carry. Just because there are many people who are uncomfortable with open carry.
Of course this means that they will have to loosen concealed carry regulations. So, maybe we get what we really wanted through the back door.
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Now, I think the speculation is very optimistic at this point. While the 9CA found a right to open carry, they also did not address the requirement for a permit and only found that no permits was not constitutional. They sent the case back to the lower court.
It is perfectly possible for the lower court to find that quite burdensome conditions on permits are reasonable, which will result in another appeal and maybe another smackdown.
One of the problems we have is that Diarmuid O'Scannlain, the real mover behind this decision, is 81. He is not going to sit on the 9 CA forever.
Of course, the "bad states" have to balance the fact that the Supremes are changing and while delay may help them in the 9th, it will not help them in the SC. And, if Our Favorite President can appoint some more conservative judges in the 9 CA we may even gain the upper hand there.
My personal bet is that they cut their losses and start issuing very restrictive open carry permits, which eventually are forced to be much less restrictive.
Outstanding! There is a lot of infringement that needs to be struck down, but this is a very good development. We need to get Kavanaugh confirmed and then start having SCOTUS actually take 2nd Amendment cases again.
In the meantime, the way this is making gun grabbers squirm gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.
If they do that it will certainly be appealed to SCOTUS and with Kavanaugh seated it will be 5-4. We will have open carry nationwide. Ergo, not just Hawaii and California but also Illinois, Maryland, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Connecticut will have it rammed right down their throats too. And there will be no appeal.
So by all means gun grabbers, bring it on.
“You sound like a snowflake, ...”
Exactly. Arizona has been open carry since paleolithic times. The only ones who become alarmed are liberal snow birds from shithole states. Even they calm down fairly quickly.
Goes to show you how much our culture has changed in the last 60-70 years. Used to be if you carried concealed you were nefarious one. The person who openly carried may not have been a good guy; at least he wasn't some dastardly underhanded thug, definitely up to no good. All becasue he wasn't openly carrying his firearm.
Most of America is rural.
While I am not an Open Carry fan, I figure of the Cops can Open Carry, any Law Abiding Citizen should be able to do the same.
...and most of its population is not.
My initial point was that both you and ThePatriotsFlag were limiting your statements to certain situations, and applying that conclusion universally.
You cannot do that logically. You were each correct for the limited situations, but you were incorrect in applying that conclusion in a universal manner.
At the end of the day, what matters is the Second Amendment, which is quite clear. My rights should not depend on what bedwetters living in urban areas think.
The statement was that it should be legal, even though at times it can be dumb to open carry.
What brand is that? It appears to have a snap thru the trigger guard, with some sort of tab...a release maybe?
And, my favorite leather color...
I wish the Hearing Protection Act would go thru. I would buy two silencers right off the bat.
As a follow up on this line of thought, I'll throw out there that "back in the day" those who shouldn't have been carrying firearms, for whatever reason, but were got taken out of the gene pool on a much more regular basis that in today's more gentile and enlightened era. More's the pity in that regard, at times.
That is a Bianchi model 82. The gun locks in the holster through the trigger guard when it is inserted. That little lever you see has to be pressed toward your body to release and draw.Would be extremely difficult for someone to disarm you. Superb retention system.I have 2 of them ...one each for Glock 26 and 19.
Evidently you don’t know how us
STUPID cowboys out here in the
west rely on open carry pistols.
In certain situations, concealed
carry is STUPID.
Nice. I see another holster in my future.
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