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HD was in trouble well before Trump.

They are making too many bikes in too many versions and the dealers have too many unsold bikes on their lots.

Our local HD dealer even stays open on Sundays trying to sell the hundred or so bikes they have in stock.

Back a few years ago, you had to get on a waiting list...................

1 posted on 07/25/2018 7:03:56 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Motorcycle Ping!.................


2 posted on 07/25/2018 7:04:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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“HD was in trouble well before Trump.”

Yes, they were. You’d think they’d have stopped digging their own grave after some REALLY bad PR in the past decade with sex and race discrimination suits at their dealerships.

Playing against President Trump has proven time and again to be a dumb idea. ;)


3 posted on 07/25/2018 7:09:58 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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Millennials aren’t into riding hogs.


4 posted on 07/25/2018 7:10:59 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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Harley-Davidson’s domestic market has been dropping for years, which is why they’re shifting emphasis to the international market.


6 posted on 07/25/2018 7:13:32 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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It’s not Trumps fault. HD was trying to expand in a shrinking market.


9 posted on 07/25/2018 7:16:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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It’s worse than that, the average age of a Harley owner is 50.


10 posted on 07/25/2018 7:16:54 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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HD was in trouble well before Trump.

Yes; yes they were.

They screwed the pooch, though, when they tried to blame their troubles on PDJT.

12 posted on 07/25/2018 7:18:11 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Hey, Rocky--Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!)
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They need to bring back the Black Cherry-Black Cherry Pearl paint scheme that I had on my 2005 Springer. That and every bike looks like some variant of the Fatbob street bike...


14 posted on 07/25/2018 7:20:16 AM PDT by shotgun ( .)
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I would guess that a 6.4% slump is just the start.


19 posted on 07/25/2018 7:22:13 AM PDT by GnuThere
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HD is low quality, high price.

Who wants to pay the price of a mid-sized car ($27,000) for a motorcycle?

I ride BMW Adventures at that price, but I get much, much more than anything HD offers.

An HD bike should be about $14,000 at most.


21 posted on 07/25/2018 7:23:40 AM PDT by CodeToad
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Harley’s are just expensive cosplay accessories.


22 posted on 07/25/2018 7:23:45 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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I heard Indian was up 10%.


23 posted on 07/25/2018 7:24:18 AM PDT by ebshumidors
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There was also that stupid policy HD had for a few years where they gave full value for used HD’s traded in for new HD’s. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.


24 posted on 07/25/2018 7:24:22 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Aren't most bikers patriots?

45 posted on 07/25/2018 7:38:17 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Actions have consequences. Shame on Harley-Davidson.


46 posted on 07/25/2018 7:40:12 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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It’s not a “Trump curse” - it’s called you abandoned our country in order to make some bean counter happy by making your crap overseas - and the American people said “screw you. We’ll ride OTHER motorcycles, losers.”

Good thing.

Now if we could only figure out a way to get Hollywood out of the country...


48 posted on 07/25/2018 7:41:03 AM PDT by Pravious
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The local Harley dealer is next to the gun range that I frequent. I am always shocked at the number of new bikes in their inventory. They spend hours every day just moving them around to open and close.


50 posted on 07/25/2018 7:41:19 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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A good article comparing the two company's history
dated Mar 9, 2018 from Popular Mechanics.

Indian Motorcycle Is Coming for Harley-Davidson's Throne

54 posted on 07/25/2018 7:46:34 AM PDT by deport
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Actually, the growth trend over in Europe and the sluggish demand in US was already a feature well before H-D decided to move production overseas. And that overseas move itself was a result of this trend, not because of Trump’s tariffs. When H-D claims that the tariffs are the reason, they are being disingenuous.

Of course, this article riffing on this years-long trend as if it just started appears to be blatant pro-Trump propaganda.


56 posted on 07/25/2018 7:51:04 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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Nearly 100 years ago, HD made the best, the fastest , and most tecnically advanced bikes in the world. For decades now, they haven’t.
Lots of other choices out there.
Some company should make a standard model for tall (6ft+) riders.


59 posted on 07/25/2018 7:54:22 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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