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Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) tells [media]... Trump..."is becoming...like a Soviet-type of economy..."
Twitter ^ | 7/24/18 | Alex Bolton, "journalist" for The sHill

Posted on 07/24/2018 12:15:01 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) tells @burgessev and me outside GOP lunch that $12 billion in trade assistance to farmers from Trump administration "this is becoming more and more like a Soviet-type of economy here" with "commissars" sprinkling around benefits.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; agriculture; alexbolton; canada; centralplanning; debt; deficit; election2018; election2020; farmers; farming; maga; media; mexico; nafta; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; partisanmediashills; ronjohnson; subsidies; tariffs; tds; thehill; trade; trumpeconomy; welfare; wisconsin
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To: SoFloFreeper

It’s not out of context (can a tweet really be out of context?). I heard Johnson making the same point on Fox. He’s a total Chamber of Commerce Pubby. “Farmers want free trade, not welfare...” meanwhile 800 billion trade deficits are just fine.


61 posted on 07/24/2018 2:11:11 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is ba fraud.,)
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To: semimojo
Give us your solution as to how the US should level the playing field. The US is the least protectionist country in the world. Other countries are levying higher tariffs on our goods and erect non-monetary trade barriers. The Chinese have been dumping steel and aluminum on our markets destroying our domestic industries.

Trump wants to lower all the trade barriers. He wants reciprocity. We must be willing to confront China and the EU. Otherwise our industrial base and good paying jobs will go abroad. The US is the most lucrative market in the world. We have and have had all the leverage, but were afraid to use it. Trump is doing exactly the right thing.

62 posted on 07/24/2018 2:11:29 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ron Johnson is on drugs.


63 posted on 07/24/2018 2:13:34 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Hugin

“Farmers want free trade, not welfare...”

Yeah, especially when the Farm Bills are written in Congress.


64 posted on 07/24/2018 2:18:31 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Poison Pill
What exactly is the END? We don't have an demand position on the table. There is no official request of the Chinese that has even been made.

I suppose we'll find that out when they do. It's how the game is played. Read the book.


65 posted on 07/24/2018 2:19:52 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: lodi90
“Farmers want free trade, not welfare...”

I sold to them for years. Yeah, they like their welfare.

Under Democrats they get "free trade" AND welfare.


66 posted on 07/24/2018 2:21:03 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
If any group ought to be recipients of government payments it is those who own and farm their own land. Family farms are a good thing per se and should be supported just as intact native two heterosexual parent families should be supported including paying parents for having children. Illegal immigrants and inner city welfare types should be discriminated against in every way possible.
67 posted on 07/24/2018 2:37:48 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ron Johnson has LOST HIS MIND!


68 posted on 07/24/2018 2:43:09 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: DoughtyOne

What I don’t get is the soybeans. How are the Chinese going to feed their population wit the sudden end of the American soybean crop? Are they going hungry?


69 posted on 07/24/2018 2:43:39 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: tinamina

Have they said they won’t import them anymore?


70 posted on 07/24/2018 2:48:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Shill shilling about a RINO, heavens to betsy. Thanks SoFloFreeper.

71 posted on 07/24/2018 2:49:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Read the book.

I'm supposed to read a book he didn't write to understand what he's not saying?

72 posted on 07/24/2018 2:53:12 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Will88

Except that we need every vote in November. Hopefully, at can see the end game, and not have a tantrum.
I confess, I don’t know much about farm business, but I’ve heard for years, that most farms are owned by big corporations. Maybe someone can enlighten me.


73 posted on 07/24/2018 2:55:01 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: SoFloFreeper

Isnt Johnson the dope smoking former presial candidate? Probably under the influence.


74 posted on 07/24/2018 2:56:08 PM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Looks to me like proof positive this quisling turd of a Senator was Deeply Involved in the Seditious Conspiracy to Overthrow the United States Government.

He is lashing out in anger at the prospect of going to PRISON FOR LIFE when All the evidence comes out.


75 posted on 07/24/2018 3:03:58 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: kabar
Give us your solution as to how the US should level the playing field.

If you mean that we should have a net $0 trade balance with every other country, I don't want to level the field.

The US is the largest consumer economy in the world and it makes sense that we buy more from many other countries than they buy from us.

Other countries are levying higher tariffs on our goods and erect non-monetary trade barriers.

True, and by doing so they're artificially holding down the standard of living of their populations. Why would we want to do the same?

All a tariff does is force us to pay more for a good than someone else is willing to sell it to us for. Where's the benefit to us in that?

If other countries want to sacrifice in order to sell us cheap goods, fine.

The Chinese have been dumping steel and aluminum on our markets destroying our domestic industries.

If there's a real national security threat tariffs might be appropriate, but given that we still produce 80% of our own steel I'm not convinced.

Again, we have many, many more jobs involved in making things from steel than in making steel itself. If we have someone willing to sell us steel below cost we would be crazy not to take advantage and would create many more jobs as a result.

Trump wants to lower all the trade barriers.

He missed a good opportunity with TPP.

How do you think these barriers get removed? It's via negotiation - exactly the kind of negotiation we did with TPP which would have vastly lowered and simplified the tariff structure with 11 of our allies and been a significant blow to China.

The US has always been the big dog in global trade and we've had the confidence in our own capabilities to not do self-destructive things when our trading partners got protectionist.

It's served us very well overall and I don't understand how we became so fearful.

I want to move forward and win the trade game, and if other countries are willing to impoverish their populations for a while by putting up barriers I'm OK with it, because I know it can't last.

China, among others, has a vast, growing middle class who aren't going to be satisfied keeping their standard of living down to enable cheap exports.

I want us to be the ones selling them stuff, not the ones hunkered down behind a trade wall watching the world move forward.

76 posted on 07/24/2018 3:15:18 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: DoughtyOne

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/02/it-appears-china-has-stopped-buying-soybeans-from-the-us-altogether-because-of-trade-fight.html


77 posted on 07/24/2018 3:17:41 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: Afterguard

You are thinking of Gary Johnson, the former governor of New Mexico.


78 posted on 07/24/2018 3:20:37 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Flaming Conservative
I confess, I don’t know much about farm business, but I’ve heard for years, that most farms are owned by big corporations. Maybe someone can enlighten me.

A quick Google turns this up:

Family farms make up 99 percent of America's 2.1 million farms and 89 percent of agricultural production.Jul 20, 2017

That surprises me. I know corporate farms are on the increase and I'd have guessed they produce more of total US ag output than 11%. And, of course, many family farms are very large operations. This seems like good news to me if correct.

Goodlge: percent of US ag production by family farms

You can probably find some more interesting facts by scanning that page.

79 posted on 07/24/2018 3:58:13 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

Thanks!


80 posted on 07/24/2018 4:44:56 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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