Posted on 07/21/2018 11:40:05 PM PDT by deek69
One disastrous tweet has finally revealed Elon Musk for what he is: a fraud.
Enraged that a British cave diver called his idea to rescue the Thai soccer team for what it was — “a p.r. stunt [with] absolutely no chance of working” — Musk took to Twitter and called him a “pedo.”
Just like that, Tesla’s market value plummeted by $2 billion.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Consider the earliest days of Apple. Musk is the equivalent of Steve Jobs, who was the idea man and promoter. Steve Wozniak was the engineer who made the ideas happen. Both were necessary for Apple’s survival and success, but their roles were different.
If you do some research, I think you’ll find that close to 90% of subsidies are state and local.
https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/top-100-parents
And people used to complain about Trump getting subsidies:
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/08/magazine/the-expanding-empire-of-donald-trump.html?pagewanted=all
From what I’ve read, Musk has a complete understanding of physics and engineering.
OTOH, Steve Jobs went on and on about the influence of his calligraphy class in college.
Calligraphy?
Ha! That must explain Apple’s focus on innovative emoji engineering.
“Complete understanding” sounds like Musk’s self-promotion. What he understands is that by assembling a team of talented engineers, success is possible (but by no means guaranteed). Without that team, and a force driving it from the top, Tesla and Space-X would never had happened.
Understanding engineering and doing engineering are two different things.
>> But a lot of people are envious of him
Word got out that he was a notable contributor to the GOP...
elon is a joke.
I can’t thing of a larger gap between reputation and actual results in the entire world.
He presides over an auto factory where Toyota/GM built 400,000+ cars per year in the 1980’s.
And with a brand new “state of the art” assembly line, after a year, Elon can’t even manage 5000 cars per week for two weeks in a row.
The amazing thing to me is that there are still “investors” who will pay over $300 for shares of this “equity” !
Actually, out in ol’ Buffalo Prince Andrew Cuomo used a $Billion NY Tax Dollars to build a solar panel plant that has yet to even come near the number of jobs that were “promised..” That marketing strategy has changed and it is now doubtful that it will succeed in putting the number of people to work that was advertised. Also, six people involved in this scam were just convicted of bribery and corruption. Welcome to the Empire State.
There goes Solar City and those homes with ugly panels on the roof.
He should have stuck with rockets - those are working, and working really well. Building cars is not something done on a whim, and building electric cars before the technology is safe and practical simply cannot be done on any scale. Sure, you can build ‘talking points’ for the uber-wealthy so they can walk around with their noses pointing straight up at their ‘socials’ and put down others who are subsidizing the oil fields of Texas, but that’s about the limit to their practicality.
I don’t know how true it is but I read somewhere musk had assembly line robots removed and replaced with human labor.
Nothing wrong with success, but if it comes on the taxpayer’s dime, it is inherently fraudulent. And just what has he actually produced?—indeed, electric cars are very old technology, and he makes overly-expensive ones that tend to self-immolate.
Railroad barons did not depend on government subsidy, but were forced into it and ended up paying the government back with interest, never mind getting their margins lowered by taxation and Interstate Commerce Commission regulation; and the government further eroded their margins by “competing” against them with subsidized roadways (quite often by taking over privately-operated roadways) even as early as the nineteenth century.
Government assistance is not inherently a “necessary evil for progress”, if by “progress” one means technological and commercial advancement.
Don’t see the parallel. Neither Wozniak nor Jobs were dependent on taxpayer-funded government handouts. And who is Wozniak to Musk’s Jobs, then?
Nobody likes the notion of “corporate welfare”. Many are forced into it due to state control of the economy, however.
But what has Musk produced that any of us here find ourselves not wanting to do without?
“But a lot of people are envious of him and want him to fail. So I take criticisms against him with a grain of salt.”
I think he is brilliant and perhaps worthy of being labeled a genius. But, that doesn’t mean he is a good businessman or capable of taking an idea from a startup to a profitable business endeavor. Actually, there’s a long list of people such as Musk who failed in making the leap. I think eventually the board will remove him from the operations side and bring in a solid manager with auto manufacturing experience to turn the company around and make a profit. Hope so anyway.
He says stupid stuff in twitter, but the rockets work and are highly successful, so he can’t be a total fraud.
What, precisely, does that mean? Trashing one tenth of one half of the car? Fully trashing that tenth of a half?
He is texceptionally smart and he made an insane amount of money too fast. He is so smart he thinks he knows more and thinks better than anyone else on the planet and made his money so fast that he really has no concept of where it came from. It dropped out of the sky on him and he doesn’t see why everyone can’t just hold out his hands and money falls into them. That is true of several tech wizards in the Valley.They can be great at financing innovative ideas but they have learned nothing about economics or history.
He is a Typical Heathen Liberal Psychopath.
The subsidies are being taken away in Ontario, Canada’s biggest province and when you stop passing out a $14,000 cash back to Tesla buyers, electric car sales tumble. Same thing stateside. There will always be electric cars around for the rich and famous to purchase, but the general public is becoming sick and tired of paying out their tax dollars to subsidize a losing proposition.
Gas guzzling automobiles will be the norm for many generations to come... And self driving cars... That’s a fantasy that’s really a nightmare, more than a dream.
I don’t even let other people behind the wheel when I’m in a car, so it will be a very cold day in hell before I get in a vehicle that’s driving without me behind the wheel.
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