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Red-state Dem tells Schumer to 'kiss my you know what' on Supreme Court vote
The Hill ^ | 07/14/18 | Avery Anapol

Posted on 07/14/2018 9:59:05 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin (W. Va.) had strong words for Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s (N.Y.) efforts to unify the party against President Trump’s Supreme Court pick.

Manchin suggested to Politico that Schumer does not have any influence over whether or not he supports Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination.

“I’ll be 71 years old in August, you’re going to whip me? Kiss my you know what,” Manchin told Politico, referring to whipping votes among the party caucus.

Schumer has spoken out harshly against Kavanaugh and vowed to oppose him “with everything I’ve got.” Democrats will need at least two GOP votes, in addition to all Democrats, to block the nomination.

But Democrats up for re-election in Trump states are not guaranteed votes against the confirmation, and many have signaled that Schumer’s efforts may not be enough to convince them to vote against the nominee.

“My decision won’t have anything to do with Chuck Schumer,” Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.) told Politico. Donnelly, in addition to Manchin and Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.) all voted in support of Neil Gorsuch.

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) told Politico that Schumer “knows better” than to try to pressure her to vote a certain way.

“He doesn’t come to me and say: ‘You’ve got to vote with us on this.’ He knows I’ll tell him to take a flyin’ leap,” she said. “I’m going to do what I think is right. It has nothing to do with the party.”


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana; US: Missouri; US: New York; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 115th; brettkavanaugh; charlesschumer; chuckschumer; democrats; fakenews; joemanchin; kavanaugh; manchin; schmuckychoomer; schumer; scotus; supremecourt; trumpscotus
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To: yesthatjallen

Please Mr. Custer, I don’t wanna go.


41 posted on 07/14/2018 11:21:47 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG
"Please Mr. Custer, I don’t wanna go."

There's a redskinstate a-waitin' out there, just fixin' to take my hair

42 posted on 07/14/2018 11:27:07 AM PDT by drpix
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To: yesthatjallen

Chuckie gave Joey permission to diss him in public. He knows Manchin is in a tough bid for reelection in a state that went overwhelmingly for Trump.

Kabuki Theater.


43 posted on 07/14/2018 11:32:27 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: yesthatjallen

Chuckie has given them “permission” to badmouth him.


44 posted on 07/14/2018 11:44:28 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: yesthatjallen

BS...if these sleazy Democrats get re-elected they will kiss Schumers a$$


45 posted on 07/14/2018 11:45:00 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: centurion316
"Air-Claire" raised over $4 million in Q2 as opposed to AG Hawley who raised less than $2. Mother is a prolific fund raiser. Hollywood. Unions. Feminists. All back her and donate ton$ to her. Nearly $60 million since 2005 when she first ran for Senate.

We really need to win PROP A- Right to Work and stop this union $$ from being extorted by union workers. Unfortunately, poll from 2 days ago has RTW losing 56-38%. Not good for us...

46 posted on 07/14/2018 11:45:47 AM PDT by donozark (Restraining orders are just another way of saying I love you.)
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To: centurion316

I think it is theatre for now. I think Schumer should turn them loose on this one. He lost leverage over Gorsuch and he could wake up any day with RBG leaving or gone. But, the forces are fierce telling the Dems they better man up now. If they lose again after a fierce battle and an election that does not go their way, the RBG seat may not be such a tough battle if it should be next.


47 posted on 07/14/2018 11:47:45 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans; vette6387; unkus; SkyPilot; mazda77

RATs are truly psychotic and they’re self-destructing before their voters eyes. The few that think for themselves and who are sane, are choosing to WalkAway!!

RATs in Congress are rattlesnakes eating their own. Awesome to watch.


48 posted on 07/14/2018 11:49:04 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: donozark

Hawley is currently up 2 points in Remington Poll. But, he has been up as much as +8 in that poll. Now that the Governor dust up is over, he should do better. Claire will stop at nothing to win.

As for the Right to Work referendum, apparently someone is misleading people to believe that a yes vote is a yes vote for unions. The opposite is true. Their ads are suggesting that all union members will lose $8700 per year if Missouri becomes a right to work state.


49 posted on 07/14/2018 12:07:36 PM PDT by centurion316 (Back from exile from 4/2016 until 4/2018.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I don’t think Schumer is all that slick. Look at how he screwed up the one day gubmint shutdown. I don’t think he is as adept at running things as Dingy Harry was when he ran the Senate Rats.


50 posted on 07/14/2018 12:11:28 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Teacher317
Found a good Senate vote comparison resource for Senators in states that Trump won...

Manchin (WV) votes with Trump 60% and with Schumer 68%
Heitkamp (ND) votes with Trump 54% and with Schumer 73%
McCaskill (MO) votes with Trump 44% and with Schumer 82%
Jon Tester (MT) votes with Trump 36% and with Schumer 85%
Sherrod Brown (OH) votes Trump 28% and with Schumer 94%

Also:
Baldwin (WI) votes with Trump 22% and with Schumer 93%...
Jones (AL) votes with Trump 50% and with Schumer 78%...
but they aren't up for re-election this cycle.

source:
Compare with other Senators
https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members
Compare to Trump
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/

Lots of good numbers to ponder and stare at...

47 Senators vote along Trump lines 86% or more
7 are between 73% and 83%
Manchin (WV) is alone in the gap at 60%
3 are between 50% and 54% (all Red States, of course - IN, ND, AL)
37 are between 21% and 44%
and 9 are between 8 and 19%

(104 total, since it includes Strange, Cochran, Sessions, and Franken)

Sessions was 100%, but wasn't there long...

No Republican is below 73%, and Manchin (60%) is the only Dem above 54%.

The HUGE targets:
Jon Tester (D-MT) votes with Trump 36%, but the expectation would be a 85% agreement with Trump (since Trump won MT by 20%).... a discrepancy of 49pts
Sherrod Brown (OH-D), votes with Trump 28%, but the expectation would be a 69% agreement with Trump (Trump won MT by 8%)... a discrepancy of 41pts
Claire McCaskill (MO-D), votes with Trump 45%, but the expectation would be a 83% agreement with Trump (Trump won MT by 19%)... a discrepancy of 38pts

Hetikamp (ND - 37%), Jones (AL - 36%), Baldwin (WI - 33%), Manchin (WV - 30%), and Donnelly (IN - 30%) are all Dems that vote against the President more than 30% more than the expected Senator from a comparable pro-Trump state. That's 8 Senators, most of whom are up for re-election in NOV, that are vastly under-representing their constituency's Trump support.

Surprises:
Rubio (R-FL) is at 96% Trump-side in Senate votes...
Heller (R-NV +47%), Gardner (R-CO +44%), Toomey (R-PA +37%) and (get this) Collins (R-ME +32%) are vastly more pro-Trump than their states' expected representatives...
Rand Paul (R-KY) is the only red-state GOP who supports Trump less than expected (74% instead of the expected 90%)

Same state odd couples:
Toomey (R-PA) contrasts Casey (D-PA) 90% to 29% despite being from the same state...
Gardner (R-CO) contrasts Bennett (D-CO) 91% to 28% on Trump's side...
Portman (R-OH) contrasts Brown (D-OH) 93% to 28%...

And the biggest discrepancy between same-state Senators:
Johnson (R-WI) contrasts Baldwin (D-WI) 91% Trump-votes to 21%, having voted the same only 2 times out of the last 134 Senate votes.

51 posted on 07/14/2018 12:30:08 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: yesthatjallen

Most voters are sick and tired of the communistic left wing ideology - and especially its lock- step militaristic style and obstructionism. And most of all it’s intense racism ( and anti- Christian, anti- Jewish anti-morality ). Any D senator or rep who wants to stay in office needs to cut free from the dnc-leftist- sorozNazi leash. Vote for or against the nominee based on qualifications. Not left wing ideology.


52 posted on 07/14/2018 12:33:24 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( "Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: yesthatjallen

6 years is a long time and Senators are not going to be keen to cost themselves their jobs by voting contrary to the wishes of their own voters when they’re already in tight races. I predict multiple red state Democrats are going to vote to confirm Kavanaugh.


53 posted on 07/14/2018 1:06:20 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Indeed, if several Democrats were unseated, there is no reason the Senate could not vote on confirming Kavanaugh again once those new Republican Senators arrive.


54 posted on 07/14/2018 1:08:11 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Excellent point.

Supposed Kavanaugh didn’t get confirmed before the election. Trump could renominate him, after the election, with the Senate membership at that time voting again. It could happen that way.


55 posted on 07/14/2018 1:23:23 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: yesthatjallen

Right after Kavanaugh is confirmed, Schumer will hold a press conference, and cwyyyy.


56 posted on 07/14/2018 1:56:16 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Has the swing Justice Kennedy’s replacement been hiding in the form of Chief Justice Roberts?


57 posted on 07/14/2018 2:41:14 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: yesthatjallen

Dems can’t stop the Supreme Court nominee...

The same Dems who voted to confirm Gorsuch and probably a few more will vote to confirm this time as well.

Even if Flake were going to try to grandstand it wouldn’t stop it.

The Red State D’s up for re-election know that to vote against the nominee guarantees they are out of a Job.

They are most likely out of a Job either way, but when it comes to most likely out of a Job if I vote for Trump’s nominee or guaranteed out of a Job if I don’t they will vote for the nominee.

The Dems political theater and craziness they will display up to the final vote just ensures more and more of the non traditional MAGA voter will show up this fall.

Let them lose their minds, and go as crazy as they like...

Trump will get his nominee and almost certainly will name a replacement of at least one true libtard activist judge during his administration and possibly as many as 3 of them.

Funny thing is Kennedy is honestly mostly a law follower who occasionally goes off the reservation.. unlike Breyer, Ginsberg, Sotomayor and Kagan who don’t even pretend to follow the law when they want a particular outcome.


58 posted on 07/14/2018 2:53:10 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Forty-Niner

Quite possibly, Roberts will become the swing vote, as he has sided with the liberals sometimes, notably on the issue of Obamacare.

So the revised lineup will be:

LIBERALS

Ginsburg
Breyer
Kagan
Sotomayor

CONSERVATIVES

Thomas
Alito
Gorsuch
Kavanaugh

and the ninth justice is John Roberts.


59 posted on 07/14/2018 2:55:56 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

In the end Roberts defection from 100% Constitutional interpretation to swing interpretation may not matter when both Ginsberg and Breyer are replaced with Conservatives by Trump.

I could see our current cold Civil War turning in an ugly direction when that happens.


60 posted on 07/14/2018 3:10:13 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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