Posted on 07/13/2018 4:09:25 PM PDT by huckfillary
On a friend’s Facebook thread, I recently posted the following. It was in response to a rather sanctimonious rant saying things defending socialism since Venezuela isn’t the only socialist country in the world. Also, the person asked if the millions going without health insurance in America mattered.
Without the wealth that only free markets, free people and capitalism can create, there’s nothing to socialize. There’s nothing to redistribute. There’s nothing to steal or give away. Does that mean nothing to you? It should. Because in order to have wealth redistribution, you first have to get wealth! In order to socialize the means of production – which is what socialism is — we have to make everyone a ward and/or slave of the state. “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Those are Karl Marx’s words, and that’s the essence of socialism. The capable and the hard working are the slaves of the incapable and the lazy under socialism. Not everyone in need is lazy, but socialism legislates and institutionalizes laziness. It treats someone else’s income as a legal RIGHT, merely because they have more and for no other reason. That’s morally wrong; what YOU’RE proposing is morally wrong, so you cannot and will not shame me. You’re the one who should be on the defensive for what you’re advancing—not me.
Authentic compassion and kindness – not the government-mandated kind — should be left to private charity, and individual acts of kindness, or to well-run private charities — not to an inhumane, bumbling, incompetent and command-and-control slave state. Sadly, you’ve been brainwashed into thinking that this isn’t what you’re advocating, but it is.
As for health care: If we had a free market in medicine in the USA like we have a (relatively) free market for groceries, clothing, smart phones, computers and automobiles, the vast majority would be able to afford it. Not that health care should be cheap. Doctors and nurses train for years and have huge bills to pay off. At times, their work is thankless but it’s still life-saving. They save lives, for God’s sake. And you want them to be the equivalent of postal employees or bus drivers? They deserve every penny they get. If you want doctors to make the same as just about anyone else, or perhaps just a teeny bit more determined by some corrupt politician who makes more than any of us through trading favors, then good luck with the kind of health care you will receive when you need it most. Most of our health care in the US is government subsidized and controlled – even before Obamacare, in the form of Medicaid and Medicare. Those programs started in the mid-1960s! If you don’t like the state of medical care in the US, don’t blame it on capitalism. It’s more socialism than capitalism. And it has been for at least half a century. I am in health care, and have been driven out of the whole Medicare reimbursement system. It’s not the low pay so much as the demoralizing and dehumanizing regulations and rules, which often make no sense and are insanely contradictory. Try working in the medical field—I bet you don’t—and then see how highly you think of these government-run programs.
Western European countries are floundering economically the extent to which they have a welfare state. And they’re only able to have a welfare state the extent to which they have lots of free market capitalism. Check your assumptions.
With socialism, SOMEBODY is providing the loot, goods and services that you’re prepared to give away (it’s not yours, by the way, no matter how sanctimonious your tone.) So your moralizing and shaming do not move me. The fact is, you will never be able to nationalize anything without either the consent or the neurotic guilt of the people who hand it over to the dictators you love so much. Venezuela is the consistent embodiment of the socialism you’re advocating. You can’t just write it off as a freak occurrence. The same happened in Soviet Russia (1917-1991), for decades in China before it moderated to state-run capitalism, and Cuba. Why does socialism fail every time it’s tried? Why does it fail the degree to which it’s implemented? YOU, not myself, have to answer those questions before you throw us all into the servitude of a welfare state, whether on the scale of bankrupt European states (who depend on the U.S. to prop them via low tariffs and other favors) or the totally devastated former Communistic states, along with North Korea and Venezuela today. If you like those places so much—go live there!
Money is neutral. It, like a saw or axe, can be used to boon or bane. It is up to us to use it wisely or foolishly. Sorry, Ayn erred in the other direction.
The opposite of money is not the muzzle of a gun — it is a barter system.
Does that render those portions of scripture into a dead letter?
I say no. They describe what should be church behavior today. Now IS it common church behavior? I daresay no. That’s how socialism got a welcome in America. People who remembered the old church fondly accepted a vacuum filler of any kind.
And people who say they want a Christianized government don’t think it through well. That is going to need some benevolent side. A rough consensus under God will do, but it isn’t going to look like unmitigated utter raw materialism.
Just knock his ass to the pavement.
I prefer a secular government, like atheists, but for different reasons. I think we should also elect Christian public servants, which does not violate separation of church and state like they try to claim. In a theocracy, you have fake religion for the purpose of power, when Jesus said “my kingdom is not of this world”. The lines between good and evil become blurred while I’d rather they were more clearly defined. We do end up with a lot of depravity in high places, but it would exist anyway no matter how you mask it.
That’s a really great point. People on the left do this all the time. It’s just virtue signaling and they never really accomplish anything other than feel good about themselves.
morally superior ACTING Leftist
ask them if they voted for the criminal hillary who is so obviously guilty of bribery and likely high treason (espionage act at minimum).
Run them over with a pick up truck. Then back up on them to finish the job.
Most socialists correctly assess that having government steal for them is the best deal they are going to get out of life. They are unemployable in the private sector. Many people are just born losers.
For a short time in human history high-rise steel and concrete cities were economically and culturally important. With the growth of the internet though, city life has mostly moved online. The technology for building vertically one mile up is now just a terrorist target. It doesn't matter anymore if all the cities turn into third world loser dumps.
It *is* a good point and it’s an important point well worth some dwell time; not that I am in any way the original author of same. But it’s an important observation because it is behind so much of their rhetoric past and present. Because it is so formulaic to how they can continuously come up with the “outrage of the week”. It’s Russian collusion, then it’s mental instability, then it’s Trump taking money for hotel stays, then back to collusion, then Stormi Daniels, then tear apart families then back to Russia. The mechanism is to report something in the serious tone, so even though Russian collusion has been in the news on basically a 24 hour basis for 1.5 years now, some new facet is something THEY know and YOU don’t so in case you were not activated BEFORE here is your chance to become activated NOW. Today: Pregnant women illegals and how badly Donald Trump treats them, thank you Kamala Harris. Once you see it; you’ll see it multiple times a day.
http://evansayet.com/ Evan Sayet “How Modern Liberals Think” is an important talk on this and some other stuff.
We’ve been underwriting Europe’s socialism through tariffs and supporting NATO. If the European countries had to pay for everything, their economies and health care systems would collapse like a house of cards.
Trust in Trump.
Hitting the nail on the head.
The first thing leftists do to advance Socialism is try to destroy Christianity. Thus, the deadly sins of greed and envy are no longer sins. The envy of others for what they have that others do not is the critical component of Socialism/Communism. Politicians foment envy so they can confiscate others property and lives.
Bookmark.
The outrage of the week really gets tiresome. There have been so many and by now people have forgotten about “he knew what he signed up for,” Puerto Rico, Charlottesville, and even Parkland.
I saw a video with Sayet once. It was very insightful.
Well, the folks who want a “Christian America” sure need to think it through. If it’s going to go beyond the Noahide laws — e.g. to the full Ten Commandments — this automatically raises the question of what to do with the generosity commands too.
Too much crap to remember. Wanna crush em? Laugh your ass off at them! They loose their minds at being mocked. Literally you can’t argue with an idiot. Laugh at them, mentally destroys their superiority.
bmp
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