Posted on 07/13/2018 10:43:56 AM PDT by re_tail20
As the former chief judge of New York, I have seen that money bail doesn’t work.
In New York, like most states, a person who is charged with a crime can be required to put down money as bail, serving as collateral to ensure he or she returns to court. If you can pay, you go home. If you can’t, you go to jail.
In other words, if you are wealthy, you can fight your charges from home with the help of high-end lawyers. If you aren’t, you may have to defend yourself from behind bars, represented by a public defender who is hard-pressed and more than likely overloaded with other cases.
In New York City, only 12 percent of the people who have bail set can pay immediately. The other 88 percent are transported to the infamous jail complex on Rikers Island.
Rikers is a particularly awful place – so bad that an independent commission that I lead determined that the only way to fix Rikers is to close it forever. But whether you are sent to Rikers or any other jail, you are entering a harsh and often dangerous environment that isolates you from your loved ones, your livelihood and your community.
Some people can make bail within a few days, usually relying on money collected by family and friends or borrowed from commercial bondsmen, who charge high fees. Many others stay in jail for months or even years as their cases wind through the courts.
Even a short time in jail can harm your job, your family and your reputation. It can expose you to violence or criminal influences. All this happens before you have been convicted of any crime.
The consequences do not end at the jail doors. Studies show that spending just a few days...
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So, not offering bail at all is the new work around to forbidding excessive bail?
That’s like, oh, I don’t know, requiring people to register their guns online but not having a website for them to do it.
It’s okay because it’s just an administrative concern and they weren’t INTENDING to make you a criminal because you can’t obey their regulation. *nudge*wink*
Yup. No one is advocating the release of violent offenders back into the community.
But everyone else could stay with their family pending trial.
Saves taxpayers money and makes sure people get a fair trial.
Suspect in Waterloo homicides arrested twice for domestic violence in June
Oh, my bad. I misread.
Let’s not have bail AT ALL.
How Open Borders of the judge....
OMG, you mean if I go to jail, I can't bring my kids with me? They are going to 'rip them out of my arms'??? Oh, the horror!
Tell that to the law-abiding citizens of Waterloo, NY.
Then keep them all in jail in solitary confinement 2 hours from their lawyers like you’re doing to Paul Manafort.
Here’s an idea - don’t commit any crimes and you won’t be arrested.
California is a failed state, and it has affected your thinking, sounds to me like.
Just put explosive collars around their necks. If they fail to show up for the hearing, just push the button.
If they start putting rich guys and girls in jail with no bond than maybe there will be prison reform. I think that’s his logic.
They are trying to do away with the requirement of bail.
They want everyone released on their own recognizance.
What could possibly go wrong?
Sort of smells like the old libtard one size fits all solution: If it doesn’t meet my utopian standards, then let’s apply Haitian standards.
Women and children of bail bondsmen hardest hit.
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Illinois bail bondsmen not concerned that will happen here, since we have no bail bondsmen in Illinois.
Do they just set bail low, or do people find that they usually can’t make bail?
a better question is he white?
10% of bail to be posted by the accused.
Billionaire Harvey Weinstein gets a multiple rape rap and his bail is a million bucks...That would be like charging me a dollar for bail...But no, I’d have to mortage my house and car and perhaps my relatives would have to do the same, for me...
I think his point is that the Judge should make the determination as to the likelihood of the defendant returning for trial based on facts presented.
Low risk - let him/her out; high risk - detain them.
Don’t make it an economic issue (afford or can’t afford bail).
Clearly, the ones that get out on bail have a higher reason to come back (the 12%). That works.
Issue is the ones that are a low flight risk but have no money. Is it fair to them? Obviously not. However, I query whether someone without means for bail can get together a story strong enough to convince a Judge that they will return. Likely not?
Concept makes sense; but the first one let out without bail that kills someone or commits a serious crime; Judge will have different approach second time: back to the drawing board.
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