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Former USS Fitzgerald CO Pleads Not Guilty to Negligence Charges
U.S. Naval Institute News ^ | 7-11-2018 | Sam LaGrone

Posted on 07/11/2018 10:49:45 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: servo1969

Hope his lawyer drags the senior brass through the mud for forcing incompetent affirmative action hires on him with grossly inadequate training. Bring down the whole house of cards.


41 posted on 07/11/2018 3:55:46 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: centurion316
The key to success in command involves good timing.

...and a highly developed sixth sense, not to mention quality senior NCOs to help keep you out of trouble.

42 posted on 07/11/2018 3:57:59 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: poconopundit

No doubt. The Captain’s career will not survive the Court Martial, in fact it was gone before the ship made it back to port . But, as an infantry rifle company commander and as an infantry battalion commander I had to sleep and those who tried to tough it out for long periods made some big mistakes. I haven’t heard of any discussions of a sea cabin. All of the skippers of my era were always in their sea cabin when under way, their main cabin was used when at the quay.


43 posted on 07/11/2018 4:04:42 PM PDT by centurion316 (Back from exile from 4/2016 until 4/2018.)
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To: poconopundit

You re only about 5000 miles off on your location and equally removed from the facts.

This captain is the fall guy for political correctness and diversity.

In your day, he would have had the authority to throw these incompetent females off the ship.


44 posted on 07/11/2018 4:46:32 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

OK, I stand corrected on the location. The waters near Singapore are similarly quite hazardous and the Captain should be on deck.

He may indeed be the fall guy, and I standby my opinion he should nonetheless be held accountable for his role.

The women officers should be charged as well.


45 posted on 07/11/2018 5:19:18 PM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: oldbill
This captain was assigned.....

So you were there and know everything that went down that day. So what was your own testimony in the hearing?

Inquiring minds would like to know......

46 posted on 07/11/2018 5:22:55 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I once found a needle in a haystack but it wasn't the one I was looking for...)
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To: centurion316

Understood, centurion. I wonder if this ship crossed the Equator prior to this collision. If this accident occurred shortly after those celebrations, it could be another factor.

You’ll be surprised when you hear my story of a WestPac deployment on the USS Okinawa with a Marine Corps battalion out of Hawaii. I bunked in a cabin for 3 months on the the cruise over with 2 Marine Captains and 1 Navy Doctor.

One of those Marine Captains is our current Secretary of Defense — a highly dedicated and regular guy and I now have the pleasure of remembering a few interesting conversations we had.

We were both the same rank at the time. One of us rose to become a leader of the free world. The other guy is now posting comments on this forum.


47 posted on 07/11/2018 5:32:17 PM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: poconopundit

Shipmates, foxhole buddies, fellow leaders trying to take care of the troops, it’s nice to see when the good guys make it.


48 posted on 07/11/2018 5:38:31 PM PDT by centurion316 (Back from exile from 4/2016 until 4/2018.)
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To: AndyJackson
In New Speak we are purging archaic forms like strong conjugation and the subjunctive from our language. It is too hard to find teachers who understand these things or SAT graders either.

Reminds me of a joke I heard in Hawaii.

Tourist: "Do you pronounce it Hah-why-ee or Hah-vah-ee ?"

Local: "It's pronounced Hah-vah-ee."

Tourist: "Thanks."

Local: "You're velcome."

49 posted on 07/11/2018 7:05:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Bull Snipe
Cite some examples of U.S. Navy ship captains committing suicide to avoid embarrassing the Navy


I don't have an example, but I did hear of a USCG Captain who was passed over for Admiral who did commit suicide.
50 posted on 07/11/2018 7:56:23 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ("The MSM is the enemy of the American people"...Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: servo1969
Natalie Combs, Sarah Coppock, so how is that women in combat working out for you USN?
51 posted on 07/11/2018 8:26:28 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Delta 21

Hard to believe they did not have eyeballs on deck to watch for other ships. That container ship was lite up like a Christmas tree. Eyeballs on deck would have seen it miles away.


52 posted on 07/11/2018 8:39:04 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Chode

Not guilty


53 posted on 07/11/2018 8:42:59 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: servo1969

US Navy stopped teaching basic seamanship several years ago. They might want to revisit that decision.

54 posted on 07/11/2018 8:53:36 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I know of no examples either, doubt there were any. Though in May 1996 CNO Admiral Jeremy Boorda committed suicide just before an interview with David Hackworth. Supposedly Hack was going to inquire about ribbons Boorda wore that he may not have been entitled to wear.


55 posted on 07/12/2018 3:53:36 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: poconopundit

missed by 3300 mile. The Fitzgerald collision took place near Sagami Wan, the entrance to Tokyo Bay, Japan


56 posted on 07/12/2018 4:03:41 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

Yes, sorry my memory failed me.


57 posted on 07/12/2018 4:13:30 AM PDT by poconopundit (MAGA... Get the Spirit. Grow your community. Focus on your Life's Work. Empower the Young.)
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To: UCANSEE2

“I had no choice but to shoot him, judge, my wife was in danger.”
“Mr Redd, our records show you aren’t married.”
“Never said I was.”
“Are you Mr John Redd, of Hawaii?”
“Yes. Honowuwu.”


58 posted on 07/12/2018 10:18:21 AM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: centurion316

I meant NOT that he should never sleep, but that he was being held responsible WHILE he was asleep.

All he can do is give order then go to sleep. Did he give bad orders?

I would say if he KNEW that the two women were having a hen fight he should have had them both in for a dressing down.


59 posted on 07/12/2018 1:10:13 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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