"If Roe is overturned, continued Catholic advocacy for a comprehensive medical and social safety net for expectant mothers will be crucial in order to save lives and render abortion an even less appealing choice to the public conscience. At this juncture, anyone who recognizes the humanity of the unborn should support the nomination of a justice who would help return this issue to the legislative arena. Overturning Roe would save lives and undo a moral and constitutional travesty. "
I posted this mainly because it's from "America," the Jesuit magazine. I think it's reasonable.
Your thoughts?
IF such a vote ever comes up while the dead soul John Roberts sits the bench. his masters will tweak his strings and he will do as they command him do. The nurderous rite of slaughtering alive, sensing, unborn human beings will not be removed.
I’ve heard several SCOTUS justices comment over the years that they consider Roe v Wade a completed case and to re-visit it would take a significant NEW argument as to why to reopen it.
I think the left is just freaking out in faux rage over nothing. While I would like it re-visited, it’ll be years in the making to get there, if it even happens.
“Roe probably won’t be overturned because it probably won’t come up; Casey is the center of abortion law nowadays....
...Here is reality: Casey’s refinement of the right judicially manufactured in Roe granted expansive and expanding room to regulate abortion. The validity of those regulations, not the core holding of Roe, is what dominates abortion litigation nowadays. It is unlikely that cases will present a need to grapple with Roe; it is even less likely that Roe will be overturned...
...The real action on abortion today derives from Casey, decided 19 years after Roe. The real legal action, that is. That’s a caveat worth adding. If abortion ever gets rolled back in this country, it will be because a cultural shift forces legal change, not the other way around...” - By Andrew C. McCarthy
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/supreme-court-unlikely-to-overturn-roe-v-wade/
Sorry but don’t count on the Jesuits for support. In the 1980’s Cardinal O’Connor fought a heroic fight against the abortionists and their political leader, the vile Governor Mario Cuomo He got absolutely no support from the Jesuits at Fordham and in fact they openly hired pro abortion non Catholic “theologians” to their faculty.
“We should begin by avoiding the intramural argument that has consumed too many Catholics—namely, whether other pro-life issues are as important as or more important than abortion. This argument is itself an artifact of Roe’s removal of abortion from normal political debate, which has led to claims that opposing Roe must override all other pro-life concerns.”
This is bs.
Abortion does override all other “pro-life” concerns.
Abortion is the direct taking of innocent human life. It is murder. It is intrinsically evil.
Other “pro-life” issues either really aren’t pro-life issues, but rather progressive policies open to the political debate as to their worth, or are prudential judgements about which there are legitimate differences.
Jesuits attempting to obscure the truth. Typical.
On the other hand, they pay well.
The same as before he was Nominated.
It’s just a Fundraising through Fear tool of the Left.
First thought: I hope RvW withers on the vine.
Second thought: It seems to it would be more effective to bring the multitudes into the (authentic) Catholic faith. Without going into detail, if everybody followed Church doctrine, there would be little need for pregnancy centers or abortion mills.
I’m sure I will get roasted for saying that, but the fact is this is a spiritual problem that cannot be solved by the flesh.
That would be really a challenge to Roe from a different angle.
Remember Roe jumped off of Griswold and the cases holding that the right to privacy allows for all sorts of acts many find immoral.
Yes, reasonable article, although still politically correct.
“Anyone who recognizes the humanity of the unborn should support the nomination of a justice who would help return this issue to the legislative arena.” True.
Let’s cut to the chase: every student and teacher at a Jesuit university must actively support Kavanaugh.
The only way abortion will be stopped in the USA is with the support of the Democratic Party.
It would need to see itself facing extinction.
The best argument that can be made that will be effective at changing minds is that abortion has cost Social Security trillions of dollars in lost revenue.
~$200,000 lost FICA/SE tax per dead baby on average
~50,000,000 dead babies
~$10 trillion in lost FICA/SE taxation revenue
So they are arguing for an expanded Welfare State, to bribe low income women from having abortion?
No. The welfare system needs to be dismantled.
I wouldn’t get my hopes on Roe vs Wade getting overturned on a 5-4 decision. The Supreme Court would be reluctant to revisit a issue unless it had a “supermajority’ or at least one that had the chance of getting at least a equal amount of votes.
Roe vs Wade was decided by a 7-2 vote.
I don’t see the court deciding to overturn its decision unless it gets another two Trump conservatives to pound it into history so future 5-4 votes don’t overturn its verdict.
It’s sad but that’s my realistic prediction.
I’m pro-life, that said I think Roe vs Wade is not going to come up in the USSC in the next 10 years...The taking of a life is murder and the women needs to know the facts...if she doesn’t want the child, put it up for adoption. People are looking for babies to adopt and that’s why overseas adoption is popular...
The Church should start teaching again. Teaching facts about conception. If I can look up information on line, then so can priests. A new individual comes into existence at conception. The sex is determined at conception. The individual is human from conception. The baby can live outside the womb after about 30 weeks. If I know, then the priests have to know. Get to it, Church! remember your teaching mission that your pope has let you forget.