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Poll: [German] AfD at record 17 percent
MSN - Translated from German ^ | 1 Hour ago

Posted on 07/08/2018 4:30:28 AM PDT by GonzoII

Google Translation from the original German:

The asylum dispute between CDU and CSU has harmed all coalition parties in the electorate and the AfD got a surge.

In the Sunday trend, which Emnid raises weekly for the "Bild am Sonntag", the AfD rises by three points to a record 17 percent. For the first time, it is as strong as the SPD, which yields two counters. The CDU / CSU loses two points, only 30 percent would currently vote for the Union. That's the worst value in this poll since November.

Overall, the grand coalition comes in the Sunday trend only to a total of 47 percent. IT would no longer have a majority in the Bundestag. The other opposition parties can not benefit from it. The Greens reach as in the previous week, 12 percent, Left and FDP are again at 9 percent.

For the Sunday trend between 28 June and 4 July 1,894 selected persons were interviewed. The asylum compromise between CDU and CSU was reached on the night of 3 July, the union's agreement with the SPD on the evening of 5 July.

After the European Union dispute 71 percent of Germans find that decency has been lost in politics. Only 23 percent do not believe that, according to another representative Emnid poll for Bild am Sonntag. According to the CDU and CSU, 67 percent of respondents find indecent, only 19 percent consider it decent.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afd; merkel
AFD = Alternative For Germany
1 posted on 07/08/2018 4:30:28 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

I don’t know what any of this means even when acronyms are translated...I am not close to this story.


2 posted on 07/08/2018 4:35:35 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Break in my country, you are illegal. Break into my house, makes not you a homeowner.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
It means the anti-immigration party in Germany is tied for second place as the strongest party in Germany.
3 posted on 07/08/2018 4:42:06 AM PDT by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen)
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To: GonzoII
Syria is asking them to come back. The majority of Germans want them to go back.

Why are the still in Germany?

4 posted on 07/08/2018 4:46:04 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Money talks.


5 posted on 07/08/2018 4:56:40 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Cowboy Bob

“Syria is asking them to come back. The majority of Germans want them to go back.
Why are the still in Germany? “

The vast majority are not Syrians. They are economic refugees because countries with Sharia law do not have what we call the rule of law. They don’t even have royal law. Anybody who is stronger than you can take your stuff and kill you because he says he’s stronger in the Muslim faith than you are. Sharia law is what any Imam says the law is. You can’t have a complex modern economy with an infinite number of petty dictators running things. Those people are infinitely better off living on the dole in a German ghetto than in a “nice” neighborhood in their defecation-hole country of origin. Unfortunately, they bring their disfunction with them and do not melt into the larger German population. That’s the problem with their culture, period. They can’t change it because attempting to change their culture is a capital offence and anybody can decide you have offended and kill you; as is legal and required under Sharia.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240010/Number-refugees-arriving-Europe-soars-85-year-just-one-five-war-torn-Syria.html


6 posted on 07/08/2018 5:12:12 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: GonzoII

Around the world the deep state is losing its grip, they are in much worst shape then they know; expect increasing flurry’s of False Flag responses they will not go down easily and at some point they will pull all the stops it will be ugly but rest assured the mammoth juggernaut will go down.

FUTURE PROVES PAST... AWAKE TO THE STORM!


7 posted on 07/08/2018 5:12:15 AM PDT by PoloSec (polosec)
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To: Gen.Blather

>>>capital offence and anybody can decide you have offended and kill you; as is legal and required under Sharia.

So very true, its called “just cause”. It’s labeled as “killed” & not as we call murder. Like in many examples of Honor Killings.


8 posted on 07/08/2018 5:45:25 AM PDT by existentially_kuffer
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To: existentially_kuffer

“So very true, its called “just cause”. It’s labeled as “killed” & not as we call murder. Like in many examples of Honor Killings.”

Many authors have compared current Islam with the way Christianity was in the ninth century. But I can’t recall any Christian culture where the common man was required to kill his neighbor for heresy. True, many did so, but by denouncing them to the church authority, which was much more limited in scope than the any-man-imam. The problem with Islam, is, in modern parlance, a crowd-sourced religion. This makes it much more insidious than a central authority religion, which might one day be reformed.


9 posted on 07/08/2018 5:54:16 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: CincyRichieRich

There are so many numbers tat none of it makes sense

There was a recent election. What difference do the numbers mean in the current static, already elected, sitution?


10 posted on 07/08/2018 5:57:12 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: bert

The government went through some turmoil over immigration in the last week with rumblings from the CSU about stopping migrants and then when a deal was cut from the SPD about ‘closed camps’ for migrants being turned around and sent back out of Germany.

Another controversy could bring the government down and mean fresh elections.

Regardless the state elections in Bavaria in October may mean a loss for the CSU of a majority there.


11 posted on 07/08/2018 6:06:42 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODYS BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Cowboy Bob

I live in Germany, and the topic has come up. Some Syrians that I’ve talked to....want to see some level of ‘safety’ and Assad gone before they return. They do believe if Trump and Putin agreed to put pressure on Assad, then it would happen. The Syrians under 25 years old are less dedicated to returning to Syria, and tend to be more enthusiastic about staying (note, that a fair number of Syrians are Christians).

The spectrum though is wide on various groups. Some have nothing to do with Islam, and simply see a job-growth opportunity. The birth-rate in Germany (as dismal as it is) drives some of this open-door policy.

The AfD are the only political group with a negative view on migration and immigration, but they are a political party with very few other platforms, and that worries some folks.


12 posted on 07/08/2018 6:20:44 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: GonzoII

“It means the anti-immigration party in Germany is tied for second place as the strongest party in Germany.”

Which sounds good until you realize they’re at 17% and that none of the ‘mainstream’ (i.e., Soros-controlled) parties will help them.

The Germans may, rightly, be ashamed of their behavior in the 20th century, but if they want to make it to even 2050 as a German culture, they’ll have to hold their noses and vote for AFD in MUCH LARGER numbers, even if the party somehow reminds them of that past.


13 posted on 07/08/2018 8:30:21 AM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: Cowboy Bob; Gen.Blather

The REAL Syrian refugees are mostly in Lebanon, with some in Jordan. These are REAL REFUGEES in that they went to safe countries and are waiting to go home.

They have virtually nothing to do with the hordes flooding into Europe now.


14 posted on 07/08/2018 8:32:36 AM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: Gen.Blather

“True, many did so, but by denouncing them to the church authority, which was much more limited in scope than the any-man-imam. “

The Spanish Inquisition lasted 300 hundred years and resulted in about 4000 people being executed, per Wikipedia. That comes out to a whole 13 people per year, roughly the number executed when ISIS decides to have a ‘town hall’ in any of the cities they control in Syria.

I think the Left’s depiction of past injustices by Christians may be a bit overblown.


15 posted on 07/08/2018 8:37:22 AM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: Nextrush

I see....... thanks


16 posted on 07/08/2018 8:42:03 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: Cowboy Bob
Syria is asking them to come back. The majority of Germans want them to go back.

Half are Africans who were never "refugees" in the first place.

17 posted on 07/08/2018 9:41:48 AM PDT by montag813
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To: GonzoII
Without a total explanation of all those acronyms, the thread is worthless.

Moving right along...

18 posted on 07/08/2018 12:16:04 PM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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To: GonzoII
After the European Union dispute 71 percent of Germans find that decency has been lost in politics.

I believe "decency" should be "credibility". Not that they had either for ages...

19 posted on 07/08/2018 1:48:09 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: publius911

CDU = Christian Democratic Union...the supposed “conservatives” who are of course nothing of the sort that we would recognize.

CSU = Christian Social Union....the Bavarian sister party of the CDU they have historically been the junior partner of the CDU but they do have an independent streak and are IMO more conservative and take the Christian part more seriously.

FDP = free democrats...they’re recognizably what we would actually call conservatives. They would fit in the Republican Party fairly neatly. They routinely struggle to get even 5% of the vote which by the German constitution is required to get any seats in the national parliament, the Bundestag. They usually align with the CDU/CSU but not always.

AFD = Alternative For Germany. They realize what a huge mistake letting in millions of completely unvetted military age males (overwhelmingly muslims) actually is and they want it stopped and want the ones there to either assimilate or preferably, to leave. They are called all sorts of nasty names like “far right”, “nazi” blah blah blah by the establishment. This is prima facia evidence that they are sane and reasonable. They’re Germany’s “basket of deplorables”.

SPD = Social Democrats. Socialists. They don’t actually believe in thuggish violence but they’re socialists. They used to be considerably to the left of the Democratic Party in the US but now I’d say they’re pretty closely aligned

Greens = Gaia Worshiping Watermelons. ie the same old socialism covered with a green wrapper. They always align with the SPD.


20 posted on 07/08/2018 6:29:58 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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